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Re: web-based questionnaire for restricted groups a pressing issue
#suggestion
Mark,
Yes, that was sloppy language on my part. Y!G only has the textbox, but at this point, even that would be better than nothing. I do remember your plan for the questionnaire and having it go directly into a database. I don't care at this point whether or not it goes directly into a database - although that would be really nice - and I don't think anybody else does either, at this point. They are all just clamoring for a way to get some information from a prospective member besides having to do sit and wait for an emailed questionnaire that possibly never arrives (and you never know whether it does or not). I think making the fancy implementation (database, etc.) could be a premium feature, but I think it's not a good idea to make at least some form of this a basic feature. Maybe just the textbox. Of course I haven't thought it through either, but I would be - as always lol - willing to lend my opinion if you sketch something out. :) I feel like there is urgency here, just to get *something*. -- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: web-based questionnaire for restricted groups a pressing issue
#suggestion
Hi J, On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:41 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Can you refresh my memory? I thought Y! Groups only had a single text box where you could enter a reason for joining, and that you couldn't specify the question. And that reason was just emailed to the owners and not stored anywhere. Is that true? What my vision has been is to use the database feature to be able to define a proper questionnaire. The results would be stored with the member and could be referenced/searched on. Some/all of those answers could also be made visible to the other group members. Also, I want to be able to use the database to define extra fields for each member, so that moderators can track information. But I haven't been able to properly map all this out in my head and figure out how it should work. And I was thinking it'd be a premium group feature. Thanks, Mark
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Migration from
Tom H
Wikispaces has announced its demise so organizers are hunting for alternatives. I'm one of them. Is there any prospect of an ''Easy migration from Wikispaces"? Has anyone done a satisfactory non-easy migration?
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web-based questionnaire for restricted groups a pressing issue
#suggestion
Hi Mark,
I think this is on the todo list but I am pushing for a bump in priority: GMF is virtually *swamped* with new group owners flummoxed and dismayed by not having the same kind of web-based questionnaire for prospective membersthat they had in Y!G. They are being advised to use the pending member notice to send an email questionnaire, but, as in my group, these get lost a significant percentage of the time in at least one other group; and even when they're received, having an email-based questionnaire can be a significant disincentive to join a group, compared, say, to FB groups, and sometimes people are just put off by them. (I won't compare it to Y!G because of all the problems there, including with the CAPTCHA (sp?), but that's what it's being compare to over and over again in GMF by new members.) Hoping this can happen sooner rather than later. J -- J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: guidelines
Thanks!
Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Settings —> Member notices —> create new notice —> (select type ‘guidelines’)
On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:38 AM, Victoria Caesar <victoria.caesar@...> wrote:
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: guidelines
Settings —> Member notices —> create new notice —> (select type ‘guidelines’)
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On Feb 14, 2018, at 5:38 AM, Victoria Caesar <victoria.caesar@...> wrote:
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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guidelines
I just created a new group and I´d like to provide guidelines for members. I´ve seen that some groups have - among the other icons on the left side - one that is called guidelines.
Where do I find this? Regards Victoria
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Re: login suggestion for new refugees from YahooGroups
HI Sharon, Thanks for the great feedback. I have incorporated your feedback into the join screen, the confirmation email and the welcome page. The welcome page (what you get when you click the Confirm link in the email) now lets you set a password directly on that page without having to go to your account. I've tweaked the account pages a little, but I need to go over that a lot more. But hopefully this will help your new members. Thanks, Mark
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote: I set up a new account in order to test this process. Now I’m even more confused. Nowhere does it mention setting up a password.
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Re: Date format settings
#suggestion
Sharon Villines
On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com> wrote: In messages the English groups use the format from the RFC headers, viz. 24 January 2018I find this clearest — with the month spelled out. I started using this when my email groups and clients became international. It’s the clearest for everyone even if it is not conventional locally. My copy editor for my last book even allowed this format in the bibliography. then yyyy/mm/dd is IMHO the most logical choice.I use this on files when I want them to sort chronologically. Otherwise, I find people are confused by it. And the further we go into the 2000’s the more people will want to use only 2 numbers for the year. I’m already getting questions about this. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines TakomaTime, a neighborhood timebank takomatime.timebanks.org
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Re: Repeating Events in Calendar Bug
Scott Myers
OK, I've officially tried it in two of my groups on two different computers with both Chrome and IE on both machines. The same bug exists on both groups and on both machines on both browsers. I am pretty certain it is not me.
Bob- This was not about adding a notification. This was about adding additional events to an already repeating event.
Scott Myers
From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Bellizzi
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:18 PM To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Repeating Events in Calendar Bug
I couldn't make it fail on one of my groups Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: Repeating Events in Calendar Bug
Bob Bellizzi
I couldn't make it fail on one of my groups
I tried it with one of my groups and had no problem. Added a notification and saved it for all repeats and it shows up woth my change when I open one of the later ones and also the original that I updated. -- Bob Bellizzi Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
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Re: Repeating Events in Calendar Bug
Scott Myers
No problems with the pop-up. I've tried it with both IE and Chrome,
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although I primarily use Chrome. I've tried it several different ways and had another owner try it as well. He too had the problem. So let's say I make an event that repeats and I want it to repeat weekly in Thursday 4 times. Then later I decide I want to change it to 6 times. I go into edit, change it from 4 to 6 times, the hit the green update event button. I get the popup asking me if I want to do it to all events or just this one. I select all and it acts like it works, but when I'm thrown back to the calendar, it hasn't changed. I go back into the event and nothing is changed. It is still at 4 times, not 6. I just tried this exact scenario before sending this to insure I'm describing it correctly. I did it with Chrome. Scott Myers
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From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:28 AM To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Repeating Events in Calendar Bug I wonder if the same is happening to you. Due to a glitch in my browswer (Palemoon) the popup window to choose whether you want it to apply to the current event or all events doesn't immediately appear - I have to switch to another tab and back to get it. I had previously tried to edit an event to remove the alert when it happened and assumed it had saved but had not as I had not seen the popup. Now gone back and made sure I ticked the box on the popup as well and it seems to have updated correctly. This glitch with not seeing the popup happens in a few other areas of groups.io, very annoying but nothing to do with groups.io. Dave On 12 Feb 2018 at 15:22, Scott Myers wrote: I've noted that once a repeating event is added to the calendar, it http://davesergeant.com
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Re: On language and date localization
Andre Polykanine <andre@...>
Hi Mark,
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Unfortunately, I don't know your stack, but basically if you use GNU GetText for localization, the curve won't be too large: you just wrap every text string in _() call, then you give the localizers a POT file, and you receive from them PO/MO files. Then, if something is changed on your side, it just is displayed in English, no errors, no "unknown variable" or some stuff like that. Again, I would be glad to help if needed. I've been working in localization for six years now, so I believe I could be of some help. -- With best regards from Ukraine, Andre Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion
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From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> To: main@beta.groups.io Date created: , 4:10:30 AM Subject: [beta] On language and date localization Hi All, I agree that localizing Groups.io into different languages would be great, and it's on the TODO list. Unfortunately I can't dedicate the time to make it happen right now. One of the reasons is that once a site is localized, it's more difficult to add/change features. It slows development down a bit, for the rest of time. Also, no paid groups have asked for it (but have asked for other features not yet supported). Again, I think it's absolutely worthwhile. But I can't do it right now. Date localization is a little easier, as it's a lot more limited in scope. The outstanding problem with getting that done right now (besides time) is that it's unclear if the library I use for the date picker on the add event page supports different date formats. That's on me to spend the time to figure out; I just haven't been able to yet. Thanks, Mark
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Re: search function
I agree that precision is more important than sensitivity. However I've noticed that diacritical marks are discriminators, so that (say) "fevrier" will not return results including only "février". This is not usual - most search engines ignore accents - and will lead to some gritting of teeth in areas that use characters defined by more than 7-bit ASCII…
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Re: Date format settings
#suggestion
If the date format cannot be set as a local preference, then our US-based group prefers it stay just as it is now rather than confuse our members (who have been with Groups.io for over two years).
Jean #OrlandoStrong
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Re: On language and date localization
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 06:10 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I agree that localizing Groups.io into different languages would be great,Thank you for considering our request. I do appreciate it. I'll be glad to help with the Italian translation, whenever you decide to go ahead with the project. As for date localization, I am not sure what we're talking about, but the date format we're familiar with over here is definitively day-month-year. All the best, Marina
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Re: #transfer
Southenders Admin
Thanks, Shal, I appreciate your interest in getting to the bottom of this.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 01:04 am, Shal Farley wrote: Um...But the message never made it to the group, with or without the attachment. So, something else must have happened.The message posted with the attachment, but was never emailed to memebers. This is the sort of Q&A that is more appropriate to GroupManagersForumYou're right. But at this point, I will only go back to this issue if it happens going forward. Thanks again!
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Re: Date format settings
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Dear kr402, I live in France and run Yahoo groups in English and in French. In messages the English groups use the format from the RFC headers, viz. 24 January 2018 The French groups translate the month, viz. 24 janvier 2018 (note the lower case initial letter for the month). The short-form versions used by Yahoo for notifications are 24 Jan, 2017 or 24 janv. 2017. There is a European Norm which invokes ISO 8601 - it's referred to as "EN ISO 8601" - which is a pan-European standard and thus should apply to the UK and France - although what happens after Brexit is anyone's guess! It uses only numerals which avoids the translation and usage problems for the months. Common usage in the UK is dd/mm/yyyy, as it is in France. However the clumsy, confusing and illogical 12-hour system with am and pm is used for time in the UK and the 24-hour system in Europe. Ideally Groups IO should make the date and time format settable to suit local preferences, but if this is "too hard" then yyyy/mm/dd is IMHO the most logical choice. -- ______________________________________ Ian Gillis C Eng MIET
On 12 February 2018 at 23:43, kr402 via Groups.Io <kr402@...> wrote:
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On language and date localization
Thanks, Mark, I was very happy to read your reply to the language issue. As I wrote before I gladly offer my services translating functional terms and other texts into German. Regards Victoria
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Re: On language and date localization
Tony Moody
Hallo Mark,
Two ideas on date localisation
either
1. Use 'my' system date settings to set how Groups.io serves mail to my account. My pc OS
is set to yyyy-mm-dd. I prefer this and find it most useful and least brain taxing.
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2. Use the date form which shows month as mmm : Feb or mmmm ; February . That will
remove some of the confusion. But will not help the sorting.
Thank you so very much for what you do.
OK,
Tony
On 12 Feb 2018 at 18:10, Mark Fletcher wrote about
Subject : [beta] On language and date localiz
Hi All,
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Date localization is a little easier, as it's a lot more limited in
scope. The outstanding problem with getting that done right now
(besides time) is that it's unclear if the library I use for the date
picker on the add event page supports different date formats. That's
on me to spend the time to figure out; I just haven't been able to
yet.
Thanks,
Mark
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