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moderated Re: problem with fig-leafing!

 

Forgot to add one important point. The default behavior for fig leafing has not changed. You need to specifically change it for your group.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: problem with fig-leafing!

 

Hi All,

I've just added a new group setting so that you can completely disable fig leafing. It's still enabled for all public archives when viewed by a non-member, regardless of the group setting.

I hadn't done anything with figleafing before because the proposals were quite complicated, requiring some email addresses to be hidden while others were not. I am not comfortable that I can get that working correctly, given the vagaries of email.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 7:33 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
There was a long and heated thread here about this approximately a year(?) ago and at the end, Mark agreed to make figleafing optional per group. I don't know when it's going to happen. Mark, is there an ETA for this? I, for one, am eagerly waiting the ability to turn it off.
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: revise "member left" notification for when member removed due to spam

 

Funny, I'm not getting them. (Or they're threading in email and I'm not noticing them?) I always notice the "a new member" messages, so that's not what's being sent, if any.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Jim Poston <groups.io@...> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2018 at 23:25, J_Catlady wrote:

> There was no notification when they resubscribed, and the original
> "left" notification is highly misleading.

I don't have any examples handy, but I'm pretty sure I received notification
that the meber was unsubscribed due to reporting of spam, and then I was
notified when the member resubscribed.

--
Jim
Poston@...

<<                      Leave it the way you found it.                       >>






--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: revise "member left" notification for when member removed due to spam

 

On 1 Feb 2018 at 23:25, J_Catlady wrote:

There was no notification when they resubscribed, and the original
"left" notification is highly misleading.
I don't have any examples handy, but I'm pretty sure I received notification
that the meber was unsubscribed due to reporting of spam, and then I was
notified when the member resubscribed.

--
Jim
Poston@vch-nv.us

<< Leave it the way you found it. >>


moderated Re: Allow embedding Google calendar (or other <iframe>?) in wiki #suggestion

Don McKee
 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 05:38 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
The calendar code that I use makes it pretty easy to display a Google Calendar.
I'm not sure I'd want to replace the built-in calendar with a Google version.  The built-in version is still valuable to automatically send reminders to the group (whether they want them, or not ;-) ).

-Don


moderated Re: problem with fig-leafing!

 

There was a long and heated thread here about this approximately a year(?) ago and at the end, Mark agreed to make figleafing optional per group. I don't know when it's going to happen. Mark, is there an ETA for this? I, for one, am eagerly waiting the ability to turn it off.
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Can't access group after setting up a subgroup #bug

 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 09:13 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
When you create your first subgroup, you're also creating a subdomain on
groups.io (sydney-ai-safety.groups.io in this case). That requires some DNS
changes. We do the DNS changes immediately. But it can take a few seconds
(or more) for that change to propagate to a DNS server near you. I'm
guessing that's what happened. You should be able to access your site now.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure there's anything I can do about this.
Would it be realistic to create a subdomain immediately when a group gets created, for all groups, just in case they decide to create subgroups later? That way, it would already be there.

JohnF


moderated problem with fig-leafing!

Nancy P
 

We were totally unaware of this policy when we recently started all our groups here.  We're a cancer support organization and are using groups.io as a database for our volunteers.  We need to see entire email address in our patient's applications.  Without that, the entire database is useless to us.  Any chance that might be made an option?  Our groups are all private with absolutely no public access so there's no danger of spamming.


moderated Upload Progress Bar

 

Another of my Y! groups was successfully transferred - thank you!
It was useful that the serial numbers of messages which failed the transfer process were detailed in the transfer report.

Unfortunately this group had a lot of photographs in the "Attachments" area which I had to transfer manually. With a download speed less than 2 Mbps and an upload speed of 256 kbps it took me a couple of days. While waiting for a bunch of files to upload I really would have appreciated an upload progress bar to reassure me that the upload hadn't hung. Might this be possible?

regards,
Ian


moderated Re: Email link to log in

Dave Sergeant
 

Thanks Mark, must look a bit more carefully. Actually it is labelled
'sign up' rather than 'register' but does the job. Still get people who
are confused, maybe there are too many options for logging in.

Dave

On 1 Feb 2018 at 15:13, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi Dave,

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Dave Sergeant <dave@davesergeant.com>
wrote:

Thanks Mark. Can I mention that some of our members find the login
process at groups.io rather confusing. It is good to have the various
options for logging in but it would be far simpler if there was just a
button on the webpage saying 'register' where they could there and
then set up a password and other details with the usual emailed
confirmation link like most other sites including Yahoo do.

I am always looking for ways to make the registration process go more
smoothly. But I'm not quite sure I understand. There is a Register link
at the top of the website, next to the Login link. Are you referring to
something else?

Thanks,
Mark

http://davesergeant.com


moderated revise "member left" notification for when member removed due to spam

 

This is probably something for the notification overhaul. Over the past month or so I've received emails telling me that such-and-such member left the group. I was wondering whether we were becoming unpopular until I checked the log one day and happened to notice that one of them was "removed due to marking a message as spam." I then did a search on that entry and found that all the people who've recently left had not really "left" but were removed, and all were back, having clicked on the resubscribe link provided. There was no notification when they resubscribed, and the original "left" notification is highly misleading. Hoping this can be fixed soon, if not now, then in the planned "notification overhaul." The removals due to spam seem to be happening with increasing frequency.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Messages in sub-groups are too hard to access #suggestion

 

I've got a group and I created a second sub-group for meta discussion because many people aren't interested in that.

Getting from the normal group messages to the sub-group messages takes too many clicks. First I have to click on sub-groups, then the specific sub-group, then messages again. It would be much nicer if there was just a link for each sub-group and you could go there directly.


moderated Re: Can't access group after setting up a subgroup #bug

 

Thanks, it's now working again. It took much more than a few seconds, but I suppose there might have been some caching somewhere?


moderated Re: Can't access group after setting up a subgroup #bug

 

Hi Chris,

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Chris Leong <walkraft@...> wrote:


I just set up a subgroup at: https://sydney-ai-safety.groups.io/g/main

Unfortunately, I can now no longer access my group.

The error I get is:

"This site can’t be reached

sydney-ai-safety.groups.io’s server IP address could not be found."


When you create your first subgroup, you're also creating a subdomain on groups.io (sydney-ai-safety.groups.io in this case). That requires some DNS changes. We do the DNS changes immediately. But it can take a few seconds (or more) for that change to propagate to a DNS server near you. I'm guessing that's what happened. You should be able to access your site now. Unfortunately, I'm not sure there's anything I can do about this.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Can't access group after setting up a subgroup #bug

 

Hi,

I just set up a subgroup at: https://sydney-ai-safety.groups.io/g/main

Unfortunately, I can now no longer access my group.

The error I get is:

"This site can’t be reached

sydney-ai-safety.groups.io’s server IP address could not be found."

Does anyone know what is causing this error?

Thanks,

Chris


moderated Re: Allow embedding Google calendar (or other <iframe>?) in wiki #suggestion

 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I believe it should work on a Wiki page, but isn't allowed in messages. https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/3024  If it doesn't, you should contact support@groups.io.


We strip iframe tags, I believe everywhere, because of possible security issues.

The calendar code that I use makes it pretty easy to display a Google Calendar. I would have to write the code to store config information for this, but if this is something that people want, it's definitely doable and I can put it on the TODO list.

Mark 


moderated Disparity in ability to Reply (via email) to a message between Plain Digest and Full Featured Digest

Bob Bellizzi
 

Please feel free to tell me we're wrong but a member pointed out to me that if one has the Full Featured Digest (FFD) when they click on Reply to Group it causes an email reply requiring no access to the group at groups.io
While a Plain Digest (PD) only has a URL after "Reply To This Message: Reply To This Message: " which requires one to be logged in either via password or the Logmein link to reply because it opens a  web based reply window.
So my member with the plain digest was a bit upset after finding this out.
--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Email link to log in

Bob Bellizzi
 

I run a group with over 3000 people who have a "late onset disease"
I'm well over 80 and many members are older than me and we seldom see the age as a problem in understanding clearly described information.
I've used the process and link several times and written a WIKI article for our (public) WIKI.
We simply refer members to that wiki article's url

Sorry but I think we all need to take a step back and consider how confusing a webpage with all kinds of buttons and possibly different colors would be to a newbie.
Also, customization by each group doesn't come free for Mark and can lead to serious complications is code.
--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated Re: Allow embedding Google calendar (or other <iframe>?) in wiki #suggestion

Duane
 

I believe it should work on a Wiki page, but isn't allowed in messages. https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/3024  If it doesn't, you should contact support@groups.io.

Duane


moderated Re: Email link to log in

Donald Hellen
 

Mark . . .

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:13:59 -0800, "Mark Fletcher"
<markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I am always looking for ways to make the registration process go more smoothly. But I'm not quite sure I understand. There is a Register link at the top of the website, next to the Login link. Are you referring to something else?Thanks,
A link might be missed by older people. A button that stands out and
says Register (or maybe join or both words on it) would be more
intuitive.

Donald

The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --George Orwell

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