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moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Marv Waschke
 

Are you expecting post-patch performance issues? 30% hits keep being mentioned, but I suspect that will depend a lot on circumstances— some processes hit hard, others barely touched. Best, Marv Waschke

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 9:17 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Happy New Year!

 

Hi All,

As I mentioned, I thought there would have to be some downtime soon to patch a couple of security flaws. Perhaps you've seen the coverage of the Meltdown and Spectre flaws in the news. Anyways, I still don't have a timeframe yet as to when it will happen. If I had to guess, it'll be some time this weekend, but I'm still waiting on Linode to give us answers. There is also a possibility that there might have to be two downtime periods. I just don't know yet. Hopefully, the downtime will be limited to at most an hour. I will post more when I know.

I am still working through the backlog of group transfers, but should be caught up tomorrow. Support email should also be caught up after tomorrow. And then I will get to the beta@ messages.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Douglas Swearingen <dougiebehr460@...>
 

Thank You Mark for everything you do to make groups.io the success it is.

Doug


On Thursday, January 4, 2018 10:16 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


Hi All,
As I mentioned, I thought there would have to be some downtime soon to patch a couple of security flaws. Perhaps you've seen the coverage of the Meltdown and Spectre flaws in the news. Anyways, I still don't have a timeframe yet as to when it will happen. If I had to guess, it'll be some time this weekend, but I'm still waiting on Linode to give us answers. There is also a possibility that there might have to be two downtime periods. I just don't know yet. Hopefully, the downtime will be limited to at most an hour. I will post more when I know.
I am still working through the backlog of group transfers, but should be caught up tomorrow. Support email should also be caught up after tomorrow. And then I will get to the beta@ messages.
Thanks, Mark



moderated Re: Happy New Year!

 

Hi All,

As I mentioned, I thought there would have to be some downtime soon to patch a couple of security flaws. Perhaps you've seen the coverage of the Meltdown and Spectre flaws in the news. Anyways, I still don't have a timeframe yet as to when it will happen. If I had to guess, it'll be some time this weekend, but I'm still waiting on Linode to give us answers. There is also a possibility that there might have to be two downtime periods. I just don't know yet. Hopefully, the downtime will be limited to at most an hour. I will post more when I know.

I am still working through the backlog of group transfers, but should be caught up tomorrow. Support email should also be caught up after tomorrow. And then I will get to the beta@ messages.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: Notification on Wiki change #suggestion

Jujube <ellaxyu@...>
 

Great suggestion. Shouldn't be hard to implement. It should be added to the list of administrator notifications. Maybe it should be available to members as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Everett Kaser" <everett@kaser.com
To: main@beta.groups.io
Date sent: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:07:55 -0800
Subject: [beta] Notification on Wiki change #suggestion

Among all the notifications for Administrators, it would be nice to add a chance to get notified when someone edits a Wiki page.

In a group that wants to allow members to edit the Wiki, it would make it much easier for moderators to "stay on top" of any changes that were made, in case of any malicious or disastrous edits.


moderated Re: Notification on Wiki change #suggestion

 

I'm betting that's already included in the planned "notification overhaul."
J

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Everett Kaser <everett@...> wrote:
Among all the notifications for Administrators, it would be nice to add a chance to get notified when someone edits a Wiki page.

In a group that wants to allow members to edit the Wiki, it would make it much easier for moderators to "stay on top" of any changes that were made, in case of any malicious or disastrous edits.





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moderated Notification on Wiki change #suggestion

 

Among all the notifications for Administrators, it would be nice to add a chance to get notified when someone edits a Wiki page.

In a group that wants to allow members to edit the Wiki, it would make it much easier for moderators to "stay on top" of any changes that were made, in case of any malicious or disastrous edits.


moderated Re: Gmail attachment links #suggestion

 

Thanks, Dave. I assume that the '0' at the end of the link is actually the "file index" in the attachments for the message. So, if a message had three files attached, the links would be for '0', '1', and '2'. But that's an educated guess.

I'm not sure I'd classify it as a 'bug' as such, but it certainly falls within the realm of "design deficiency." :-)


moderated Re: Gmail attachment links #suggestion

Dave Sergeant
 

Whether the attachments come as an attachment to the email or a link is
set by the group's preferences together with your own personal
preferences - it is possible to select one or the other. Nothing to do
with GMail or any other email program.

I have my preferences to receive attachments as links and that is what
I get. But I agree, the link to the attachment does not have the actual
filename in it and is always set to '0'. I see this as a bug.

Dave

On 4 Jan 2018 at 9:47, Everett Kaser wrote:

I just heard from a group member who uses Gmail to receive/read
messages.

The complain was that all attachments arrive with a filename of '0'.

Upon investigation, we discovered that the emails come in not an
attachment, but rather a link to the attachment, something like:
https://groups.io/g/kasergames/attachment/3206/0
whereas that same message in 'normal' email clients comes through WITH
the file actually attached.

So, the problem is that the file NAME is not being used in the
"attachment link" in messages to Gmail, instead the attachment 'index'
is being used as the name.

I tried searching for posts about this issue but couldn't find any, and
I tried search settings to see if there was a setting about this but
didn't find that either.

Any ideas? Anyway to get a "real filename" included in the link for
emails going to Gmail? Or is this NOT a Gmail/Groups.io issues, but
something else instead?

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Gmail attachment links #suggestion

 

I just heard from a group member who uses Gmail to receive/read messages.

The complain was that all attachments arrive with a filename of '0'.

Upon investigation, we discovered that the emails come in not an attachment, but rather a link to the attachment, something like:
https://groups.io/g/kasergames/attachment/3206/0
whereas that same message in 'normal' email clients comes through WITH the file actually attached.

So, the problem is that the file NAME is not being used in the "attachment link" in messages to Gmail, instead the attachment 'index' is being used as the name.

I tried searching for posts about this issue but couldn't find any, and I tried search settings to see if there was a setting about this but didn't find that either.

Any ideas? Anyway to get a "real filename" included in the link for emails going to Gmail? Or is this NOT a Gmail/Groups.io issues, but something else instead?


moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Ginny T.
 

Happy New Year to you, too Mark (and everyone else!). Welcome back and I hope that you had a good and much-deserved rest and break.
Thanks again for everything,
Ginny
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moderated Re: Happy New Year!

 

Mark,

Welcome back! Happy New Year to all!

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moderated Happy New Year!

 

Hi All,

I am back from vacation. I hope you all had a good end of 2017! It will take me a couple of days to work through support emails. Also, there's a backlog of group transfer requests that I need to work through.

I am speculating here, but there may have to be some downtime in the next week or so. There's been a major security flaw discovered in all Intel CPUs from the past decade, and all operating systems will need to be patched to fix it. Linode, our hosting provider, has not yet said when or if our instances will have to be rebooted or migrated to install the security fixes, but I'm guessing that it will need to happen. As soon as I know more, I'll post. Nerdy details on the flaw are here: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: User-friendly message rejection after attempt to post to a locked thread #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:00 am, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
It would seem that a Reply to the message e.g. "We're sorry but that thread is locked." would seem to be fairly simple.
Lena is implying (I think) that there's a technical issue with this because the message is bounced. She's way more savvy than me as far as email technicalities, but I'm not sure an attempted message to a locked topic has to be bounced. If there is actually some technical issue, I'm suggesting a workaround of eliminating "locked topic" internally, at least with respect to replies via email, and treat a locked topic as special case of a moderated topic for which all replies are rejected. 
 
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moderated Re: User-friendly message rejection after attempt to post to a locked thread #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

It would seem that a Reply to the message e.g. "We're sorry but that thread is locked." would seem to be fairly simple.

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moderated Re: User-friendly message rejection after attempt to post to a locked thread #suggestion

 

In other words, I’m suggesting not bouncing the message at all. Just catch it and send it back nicely, as with a moderated thread.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2018, at 3:22 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@gmail.com> wrote:

But Groups.io does recognize that a thread is locked, just as it recognizes that a thread is moderated. When it’s moderated, it sends the message to pending and let’s a mod act on it, including reject it and send a rejection message. Could groups.io treat a reply to a locked thread as if the thread were moderated and the messsge rejected, and use a canned rejection message to the effect that the thread is locked?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Lena <Lena@lena.kiev.ua> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 08:33 am, J_Catlady wrote:

How hard would it be to send a simple rejection message to the tune of "This
topic has been locked" when the topic has been locked, instead of spewing the
bounce code back at the person?
The bounce message is created by the member's mail provider. This way (rejection during SMTP session) avoids backscatter thus decreasing chances of blacklisting entire groups.io confusing it with spammers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_%28email%29



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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: User-friendly message rejection after attempt to post to a locked thread #suggestion

 

But Groups.io does recognize that a thread is locked, just as it recognizes that a thread is moderated. When it’s moderated, it sends the message to pending and let’s a mod act on it, including reject it and send a rejection message. Could groups.io treat a reply to a locked thread as if the thread were moderated and the messsge rejected, and use a canned rejection message to the effect that the thread is locked?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Lena <Lena@lena.kiev.ua> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 08:33 am, J_Catlady wrote:

How hard would it be to send a simple rejection message to the tune of "This
topic has been locked" when the topic has been locked, instead of spewing the
bounce code back at the person?
The bounce message is created by the member's mail provider. This way (rejection during SMTP session) avoids backscatter thus decreasing chances of blacklisting entire groups.io confusing it with spammers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_%28email%29


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Is there a way to make a subgroup a main group?

 

Thank you, but I am posting in the correct group. I am not looking for help managing my groups at the moment, I've been running them for 18 years.and believe my organisation is just fine.

This group is "A group to discuss the Groups.io service and how it can be improved" and I am asking about a feature that I believe does not currently exist but which would be helpful to me. I have posted here because if the feature does exist, the members here would know. If the feature does not exist, i know Mark reads this group and picks on such requests and instigates them as appropriate, and I'm hoping he'll be able to assist me when he returns from his vacation.

HTH

Helen


moderated Re: User-friendly message rejection after attempt to post to a locked thread #suggestion

 

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 08:33 am, J_Catlady wrote:

How hard would it be to send a simple rejection message to the tune of "This
topic has been locked" when the topic has been locked, instead of spewing the
bounce code back at the person?
The bounce message is created by the member's mail provider. This way (rejection during SMTP session) avoids backscatter thus decreasing chances of blacklisting entire groups.io confusing it with spammers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_%28email%29


moderated Re: Is there a way to make a subgroup a main group?

 

Sarah,

I read Helen's question to include a suggestion that this ability be implemented if it doesn't already exist. And even if I'm wrong about that interpretation, I think it's a great suggestion.:-)

Happy New Year!
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Is there a way to make a subgroup a main group?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. Please ask this on the group managers forum.

https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum

This is where you can ask for help with stuff such as this, also

https://groups.io/g/Group_Help

Although that group is quiet, but you can also get help there as well.


FYI there is an option in the main interface for sub groups.


Sorry to be so hard but I believe in organization and this is how I run my groups as well.

Take care all.

On Jan 1, 2018, at 6:11 AM, Helen <helen@felineckd.com> wrote:

I can't see there is a way to do this, but if there is, I'd love to know how.

Thank you and Happy New Year

Helen


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