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moderated Re: Accessibility with screenreaders

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

The site is very accessible using Windows as well.

On Nov 18, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually for me, most of the groups.io site is very much accessible using my mac and safari. I hope that accessibility can be brought to the same level using windows. I have not yet tested it under that OS as of yet. Iv'e only ben a groups.io mod for a few months now and I have to say I'm 100 percent hope with the accessibility.

On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike, I also have a suggestion for my team mates, I’ve noticed, that sometimes, we half to use NVDA, for certain checkboxes and radio buttons. For example, for the checkbox that says billing, jaws recognizes as notifications, and NVDA recognizes it as billing! so jaws is confused about the checkboxes and radio buttons, and it gets flaky with the roll combo box.


moderated Re: Accessibility with screenreaders

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

yes, it is very accessible with both NVDA, my primary screen reader, and system access.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <main@beta.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Accessibility with screenreaders


Actually for me, most of the groups.io site is very much accessible using my mac and safari. I hope that accessibility can be brought to the same level using windows. I have not yet tested it under that OS as of yet. Iv'e only ben a groups.io mod for a few months now and I have to say I'm 100 percent hope with the accessibility.

On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike, I also have a suggestion for my team mates, I’ve noticed, that sometimes, we half to use NVDA, for certain checkboxes and radio buttons. For example, for the checkbox that says billing, jaws recognizes as notifications, and NVDA recognizes it as billing! so jaws is confused about the checkboxes and radio buttons, and it gets flaky with the roll combo box.


moderated Re: Accessibility with screenreaders

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually for me, most of the groups.io site is very much accessible using my mac and safari. I hope that accessibility can be brought to the same level using windows. I have not yet tested it  under that OS as of yet. Iv'e only ben a groups.io  mod for a few months now and I have to say I'm 100 percent hope with the accessibility.

On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@...> wrote:

Hi Mike, I also have a suggestion for my team mates, I’ve noticed, that sometimes, we half to use NVDA, for certain checkboxes and radio buttons. For example, for the checkbox that says billing, jaws recognizes as notifications, and NVDA recognizes it as billing! so jaws is confused about the checkboxes and radio buttons, and it gets flaky with the roll combo box.


moderated Re: Beta team

Jujube <ellaxyu@...>
 

Great to hear.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Edenhofer" <bob.edenhofer@gmail.com
To: main@beta.groups.io
Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 07:49:35 -0500
Subject: [beta] Beta team

Mike Capelle! I�셫 on the beta team with you now! now I can help make certain parts of the website accessible with screanreaders!


moderated Accessibility with screenreaders

Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@...>
 

Hi Mike, I also have a suggestion for my team mates, I’ve noticed, that sometimes, we half to use NVDA, for certain checkboxes and radio buttons. For example, for the checkbox that says billing, jaws recognizes as notifications, and NVDA recognizes it as billing! so jaws is confused about the checkboxes and radio buttons, and it gets flaky with the roll combo box.


moderated Re: Beta team

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

awsome, ia m glad u r on here.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Edenhofer" <bob.edenhofer@gmail.com>
To: <main@beta.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 6:49 AM
Subject: [beta] Beta team


Mike Capelle! I’m on the beta team with you now! now I can help make certain parts of the website accessible with screanreaders!


moderated Beta team

Bob Edenhofer <bob.edenhofer@...>
 

Mike Capelle! I’m on the beta team with you now! now I can help make certain parts of the website accessible with screanreaders!


moderated Re: Count of Postings by member

 

J,

I'm now thinking it would be convenient for groups.io to put the
posterID in the member page.
Only moderators can see that page. To be of use to members it would have to be on the Directory page (and the group would have to let members see the Directory).

Even more handy would be to add a field to the filter pane which allows one to enter a member's display name (or part of it). Then one wouldn't need to go look up some arbitrary number.

Shal
Still beating the "all meta data is filter fodder" drum.

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moderated Re: Count of Postings by member

 

p.s. If you save their posterID somewhere (like in their Notes page), you can go straight to a search on posterid:12345 instead of having to find one of their posts. I'm now thinking it would be convenient for groups.io to put the posterID in the member page.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:44 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
You can do "all posts by this member" from the More menu on any of their posts, then select "Tools," then click on the timeframe dropdown. This could be make easier if you didn't have to find one of their posts first, and there's no way to do it for a period of months, but more or less, it can be done.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Count of Postings by member

 

You can do "all posts by this member" from the More menu on any of their posts, then select "Tools," then click on the timeframe dropdown. This could be make easier if you didn't have to find one of their posts first, and there's no way to do it for a period of months, but more or less, it can be done.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Count of Postings by member

Peter DeNardis <pdenardis@...>
 

Is there some way that a group owner can track the count of topics/postings by member for a month, or period of months...to gauge the activity level of the membership and to see who the more active participants are?


moderated Re: Incorrect braille input

Andre Polykanine <andre@...>
 

Hi Mark,
Seems like a bug in the software itself. A weird one, though :).


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------------ Original message ------------
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: main@beta.groups.io
Date created: , 3:15:57 AM
Subject: [beta] Incorrect braille input


Hi users of screen readers,


I've noticed that sometimes what's entered when trying to log into Groups.io appears to be actual braille characters, instead of the expected latin characters of an email address. The most recent instance of this was from someone who had this for their user-agent:


Mozilla/5.0 (Android 4.4.2; Tablet; rv:47.0) Gecko/47.0 Firefox/47.0 KeyWeb/47.0.15



So I think it's the KeyWeb software (at least in this instance).


Is there something I should be adding to the HTML form declarations to signal to KeyWeb/other screen readers that we're expecting latin characters? I did some Googling, but was not successful.



Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: /leave link changes

 

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Mark,

> - If you click on a leave link and are logged in as someone else, you
> are logged out.

I still contend that this is a mistake - very astonishing to most people (people with only one registered address at Groups.io) who happen to click on a CC'd or forwarded link.

Instead I recommend that the landing page in this case show an error message telling the user that they clicked on a link that was for someone else (contained in a message that was sent to someone else's email address).

I've changed it so that it now does this. It displays an error message, with the email address of the leave link as well as your email address. There's also a prominent Log Out button.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: find member activity by clicking on member link in post #suggestion

 

Thanks, Mark, this is awesome!
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: find member activity by clicking on member link in post #suggestion

 

HI All,

I've added a 'Member Page' item to the More menu when viewing expanded messages and to the arrow dropdown when viewing the collapsed messages view. It's also in the search results as well.

Thanks,
Mark

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:19 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:11 am, Shal Farley wrote:
The email address is shown at the very top of the page, above the row of buttons for the various "tabs" on the page.
I was not looking high enough up. :)
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

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moderated Re: find member activity by clicking on member link in post #suggestion

 

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:11 am, Shal Farley wrote:
The email address is shown at the very top of the page, above the row of buttons for the various "tabs" on the page.
I was not looking high enough up. :)
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated gray out already-read messages even when read from within search results #suggestion

 

Noticed this morning that if you read a message from within search results, the message is not grayed out. At first I thought there was a bug. Then I realized there was a bug. :) (A different kind.:)
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Incorrect braille input

 

Hi,

I’ll notify relevant groups.

Explanation: yes, Unicode does define 0x28xx range for braille dot representations. It appears the software in question (running on a braille tablet) didn’t send Latin-1 chars when braille was entered, with a likely explanation being back-translation (contracted braille to text).

To mods of lists where you know people using BrailleNote Touch: please tell your group members to use computer braille when trying to log into Groups.IO. I’ll write a notice to the BrailleNote Users forum informing folks over there and HumanWare (the manufacturer) regarding this issue. I’ll also be sending out a notice to Groups.IO forums I manage regarding this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:16 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: [beta] Incorrect braille input

 

Hi users of screen readers,

 

I've noticed that sometimes what's entered when trying to log into Groups.io appears to be actual braille characters, instead of the expected latin characters of an email address. The most recent instance of this was from someone who had this for their user-agent:

 

Mozilla/5.0 (Android 4.4.2; Tablet; rv:47.0) Gecko/47.0 Firefox/47.0 KeyWeb/47.0.15

 

So I think it's the KeyWeb software (at least in this instance).

 

Is there something I should be adding to the HTML form declarations to signal to KeyWeb/other screen readers that we're expecting latin characters? I did some Googling, but was not successful.

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Re: Incorrect braille input

Jujube <ellaxyu@...>
 

I think this could be the way the user is using the device, but then again, it could be the software itself.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io
To: main@beta.groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 17:15:57 -0800
Subject: [beta] Incorrect braille input

Hi users of screen readers,

I've noticed that sometimes what's entered when trying to log into
Groups.io appears to be actual braille characters, instead of the expected
latin characters of an email address. The most recent instance of this was
from someone who had this for their user-agent:

Mozilla/5.0 (Android 4.4.2; Tablet; rv:47.0) Gecko/47.0 Firefox/47.0
KeyWeb/47.0.15

So I think it's the KeyWeb software (at least in this instance).

Is there something I should be adding to the HTML form declarations to
signal to KeyWeb/other screen readers that we're expecting latin
characters? I did some Googling, but was not successful.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Incorrect braille input

 

Hi users of screen readers,

I've noticed that sometimes what's entered when trying to log into Groups.io appears to be actual braille characters, instead of the expected latin characters of an email address. The most recent instance of this was from someone who had this for their user-agent:

Mozilla/5.0 (Android 4.4.2; Tablet; rv:47.0) Gecko/47.0 Firefox/47.0 KeyWeb/47.0.15

So I think it's the KeyWeb software (at least in this instance).

Is there something I should be adding to the HTML form declarations to signal to KeyWeb/other screen readers that we're expecting latin characters? I did some Googling, but was not successful.

Thanks,
Mark

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