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moderated Re: Changes to /leave email link

 

Mark,

Based on my experiments showing that someone clicking on "unsubscribe" from a forwarded or cc'd message will then, if they click on "resume membership," actually have total access to that person's account, I think anything is fine as long as login is required.
--
J

 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Changes to /leave email link

Donald Hellen
 

Mark,

I can see problems with this. If a person can't simply click an
unsubscribe line to do so, they'll post in the group that they want to
unsubscribe and someone will have to do it manually for them. That
adds to moderator activity.

Donald

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:38:27 -0700, "Mark Fletcher"
<markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Based on the discussion on beta@ and the support issues I receive, it's
clear the /leave flow needs to be fixed. I think I need to change it so
that a password is required to unsubscribe via the /leave link. Here is the
new flow I'm working on; please let me know what you think:

- Click the /leave link in the footer of a message, it goes to a page where
you are logged out, and it says something like "To unsubscribe or change
your subscription options, please log in". It will fill in your email
address, but the password field will be blank. There will also be the
buttons to log in via Facebook/Google/Send me a login link. Because you are
forced logged out, there's no possibility of a different person's name
showing up in the upper right corner.

- Once you do that, you'll be logged in and taken to the (existing) /unsub
page for the group, which asks you to verify that you'd like to leave, and
gives you the option to change your subscription to Special notices or a
summary email. If you are unsubscribing from a parent group, it will tell
you that you will also be unsubscribed from any subgroups.

- Click the unsubscribe button and it'll take you to a final page telling
you that you've been unsubscribed. You may or may not receive a resub email
with a link to resubscribe within 3 days (haven't decided this yet).

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark
The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who
speak it. --George Orwell


moderated Re: Extra Storage for Sale? #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 03:59 pm, Ginny T. wrote:
I'd like to toss out the suggestion/request, (please, Mark?) of offering Basic groups the option of purchasing storage "upgrades".
@Mark,
While I generally support the request by @Ginny T., I'd like to suggest that you start with a modest increase in the storage space for the Basic (Free) plan.  I think if you look around you'll find that the groups.io storage is considerably less that all other Cloud services.

Thanks again for a great service, and I hope you will give this serious consideration.  I fully realize that you are entitled to make a profit -- I'd just like for you to be more competitive with other services.

Background

At first I loved the features of groups.io, but now as we are really starting to use it, and to develop a wiki, the storage limits, and corresponding pricing, have given me pause.  Storage is obviously very cheap these days, so the groups.io limits/pricing seem inappropriate to me.  I am concerned about getting started with a wiki, and then running out of storage space.

Of course, since we are on the basic/free plan, I can't really complain that much.  I'd be happy now if the free limit was raised to, say, 5-10 GB.

groups.io Pricing:
  • Plan           Price              Storage     I'd Like to See
  • Basic         Free               1 GB             10 GB
  • Premium    $10/month    10 GB           1 TB
  • Enterprise  $100/month  100 GB         10 TB

This is out of line with Google DriveDropBox, and Microsoft OneDrive:

  • Company           Plan               Price                Storage
  • Google Drive      Basic            Free                 15 GB
  •        "                   Paid 1           $1.99/mo        100 GB
  •        "                   Paid 2           $9.99/mo        1 TB
  •        "                   Paid 3           $99.99            10 TB
  • MS OneDrive      Basic            Free                 5 GB
  •       "                    Paid 1           $1.99/mo        50 GB
  •       "                    Paid 2           $6.99/mo        1 TB + Office 365 Personal Subscription
  •       "                    Paid 3           $9.99/mo        5 TB + Office 365 Home Subscription
  • DropBox             Basic            Free                 2 GB
  •       "                    Plus              $9.99/mo        1 TB
  •       "                    Pro                $19.99/mo      1 TB + many features


moderated Changes to /leave email link

 

Hi All,

Based on the discussion on beta@ and the support issues I receive, it's clear the /leave flow needs to be fixed. I think I need to change it so that a password is required to unsubscribe via the /leave link. Here is the new flow I'm working on; please let me know what you think:

- Click the /leave link in the footer of a message, it goes to a page where you are logged out, and it says something like "To unsubscribe or change your subscription options, please log in". It will fill in your email address, but the password field will be blank. There will also be the buttons to log in via Facebook/Google/Send me a login link. Because you are forced logged out, there's no possibility of a different person's name showing up in the upper right corner.

- Once you do that, you'll be logged in and taken to the (existing) /unsub page for the group, which asks you to verify that you'd like to leave, and gives you the option to change your subscription to Special notices or a summary email. If you are unsubscribing from a parent group, it will tell you that you will also be unsubscribed from any subgroups.

- Click the unsubscribe button and it'll take you to a final page telling you that you've been unsubscribed. You may or may not receive a resub email with a link to resubscribe within 3 days (haven't decided this yet).

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Extra Storage for Sale? #suggestion

Ginny T.
 

Hi Mark, and all,

I'd like to toss out the suggestion/request, (please, Mark?) of offering Basic groups the option of purchasing storage "upgrades".

I've mentioned both publicly and to Mark directly that I'm more than grateful for the Basic version of Groups.io - I am, very much so. It's also no secret that storage space on a Basic group is quite limited (especially for older groups coming in from Yahoo that bring a lot of "stuff" with them). I've been able to work around that as many of us have by archiving off to DropBox, and limiting the size of photos, etc. That, however, is only going to last so long.

While I'm not in the position of being able to take on an annual subscription for a Premium group, I realize that neither would I want to, other than for gaining extra storage. The features and functions in Basic groups are wonderful (thank you again!) - and to be honest, for a needlework group that is pretty much a hobby no matter how active we are, we don't need the other extras of a Premium group. Upping to that level just for extra storage is not something that would even be in the cards.

However, begin able to purchase additional gigs of storage (be it in units of say, 10GB or one large quantity, either one-time or annual fee - whatever works) IS something that would be most welcomed and also likely to be affordable. And, it would also be a way that I could support the financial end of things, rather than just saying "thank you" (which I'll always do!).

Mark, if this could be considered, I think that you'd find other Basic group owners might feel the same...
Please and thanks,
Ginny T.

--
Ginny T.  gttemari21@...
========
TemariKai.com


moderated Re: Viewing message, Click More/All posts by this member ISSUE??

 

Aha! A bug! Fixed!

Thanks! Mark!


moderated Viewing message, Click More/All posts by this member ISSUE??

Bob Bellizzi
 

Viewing message, Click More/All posts by this member 

now says The search produced no results.

One of my most frequently used features seems not to work today.  

Strange.  The other day it always gave groups total number of posts; today it gives No results.

--

Bob Bellizzi

Founder, Fuchs Friends ®
Founder & Executive Director, The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation


moderated #solved: Re: [beta] actions link no longer reads in the table of messages with #bug

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks, just did a quick test.  It appears to work now. Wow, that was fast.

Take care.

On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
summary:
when navigating with voiceover on mac os high sierra and the admin of a list goes through the messages, the actions section has no label. I'm not sure what the icon shows but I just hear "collapsed" then a click when going over the link.


Hopefully it should now say 'Topic Option'. Please let me know if it doesn't.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Delete pending messages when a member unsubs

 

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Will it then be rejected if we don't have "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" selected?  If not, what would happen if it were approved?

It will go through, regardless of what that setting is.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Delete pending messages when a member unsubs

Duane
 

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:10 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:


on the website, it will say that the person is not a member
Will it then be rejected if we don't have "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" selected? If not, what would happen if it were approved?

Duane


moderated Re: Delete pending messages when a member unsubs

 

Hi All,

I have changed it so that when a member unsubscribes (or is removed), any pending messages from them are no longer deleted at that time. When viewing one of these messages on the website, it will say that the person is not a member.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: actions link no longer reads in the table of messages with #bug

 

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
summary:
when navigating with voiceover on mac os high sierra and the admin of a list goes through the messages, the actions section has no label. I'm not sure what the icon shows but I just hear "collapsed" then a click when going over the link.


Hopefully it should now say 'Topic Option'. Please let me know if it doesn't.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Updates to Trello

main@beta.groups.io Integration <main@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "Ability to add +1 to RSVPs" by Mark Fletcher:

Added awhile ago.


[Beta] The card "Ability to add +1 to RSVPs" was archived.


[Beta] New comment on card "Switch Dropbox integration to API v2" by Mark Fletcher:

Archiving for now.


[Beta] The card "Switch Dropbox integration to API v2" was archived.


[Beta] New comment on card "Upgrade Dropbox package, switch to Google's oauth2" by Mark Fletcher:

Archiving for now.


[Beta] The card "Upgrade Dropbox package, switch to Google's oauth2" was archived.


[Beta] New comment on card "Graceful upgrades using nginx/multiple web servers" by Mark Fletcher:

Done.


[Beta] The card "Graceful upgrades using nginx/multiple web servers" was archived.


moderated Re: Earthlink block

Anita Crafton
 

Will this help those subscribed through "family member" Internet providers? I'm trying to remember if AT&T, Yahoo, and Comcast would be in this group...

Hey, I'm old. Humor me, please.😘
Anita C.


moderated Re: sign in problems

Frances
 

Since no one else is answering, I'll have a go.
I don't believe browser matters. (I have used Safari and Firefox both on Mac and Safari on iPhone.)

However check which email address she is using to sign in. That may be the problem. She needs to use the email address she has registered with Groups.io (or with the alias she has registered with Groups.io)

Or if the member is signing in from a work computer, there may be (possibly) restrictions there.
Additionally, there was a recent post from Mark about Earthlink (October 18th). 

If she wanted to use more than one email address, she can set up an email alias.

If it is none of these problems, you would need to provide more info. Which browser, which operating system, etc.

Hope this helps.

Frances


moderated Updates to Trello

main@beta.groups.io Integration <main@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "At least one deleted group still appears in search." by Mark Fletcher:

Fix.ed


[Beta] The card "At least one deleted group still appears in search." was archived.


[Beta] New comment on card "Search by email address in activities is broken." by Mark Fletcher:

Fixed.


[Beta] The card "Search by email address in activities is broken." was archived.


[Beta] New comment on card "Turn off alternate spellings in search" by Mark Fletcher:

Fixed.


[Beta] The card "Turn off alternate spellings in search" was archived.


[Beta] New card "Remove single line PNG that Windows 10 mail inserts in messages for some reason." was added to list "Messages and Archives".


[Beta] The blue label "Messages & Archives" was added to the card "Remove single line PNG that Windows 10 mail inserts in messages for some reason.".


[Beta] The description of card "Remove single line PNG that Windows 10 mail inserts in messages for some reason." was changed to:

"When someone replying to the group using this app, something
generating PNG attachment 1 kb size, which have always have a
different name. "


[Beta] New comment on card "Remove single line PNG that Windows 10 mail inserts in messages for some reason." by Mark Fletcher:

Example email:

From XXXXgmail.com Wed Oct 18 15:36:45 2017
Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com (mail-wm0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43])
by groups.io with SMTP; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:36:45 -0700
Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id t69so12593632wmt.2
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X-Received: by 10.80.240.69 with SMTP id u5mr97608edl.5.1508366202989;
Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Received: from ?IPv6:::ffff:192.168.1.3? (93-86-87-220.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs. [93.86.87.220])
by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x10sm9938282edb.24.2017.10.18.15.36.41
for <main@bork.groups.io>
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Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <59e7d77a.caa4500a.d407b.9b13@...>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "main@bork.groups.io" <main@bork.groups.io>
From: =?utf-8?Q?Aleksandar_=C4=90uri=C4=87?= <XXXXgmail.com>
Subject: RE: [bork] Testing windows mail
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 00:36:41 +0200
Importance: normal
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Replying now, and image will be attached, somehow.

Od: Aleksandar =C4=90uri=C4=87
Poslato: =C4=8Detvrtak, 19. oktobar 2017. 00:33
Za: main@bork.groups.io
Tema: [bork] Testing windows mail


Here we go.
When I start a new
topic, no PNG.
But, every my reply will have it.

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moderated sign in problems

 

An owner is having trouble signing in from a new browser. Should it matter which browser a member is using?


moderated Database: hide columns not sticky

Drew
 

Can the database column settings be made sticky? Currently if you have hidden any columns on a db page you have to re-hide them every time you navigate to the Next db page.

Drew


moderated Re: Earthlink block

 

Hi All,

It appears that Earthlink lifted the block earlier today, and messages are flowing once again to them.

Cheers, Mark


moderated Suggestion - Search on Sent Invitations page

Toby Kraft
 

Nice to be able to search for name, email, etc.

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