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locked Re: Reply to group/sender & user names

 

Apologies for getting back to this only now....

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:14 AM, pnrfan@... <pnrfan@...> wrote:
Reply to group vs reply to sender looks like it's currently only available as a default setting for the group. Can we have it available as a choice for individual emails, both via the group site and also via email? Is that possible to do?

It's not currently available. I don't know how that'd work via email.  

Also, is there an option to have replies go only to list owner and moderators? We use that for one group which only really needs to have minimal volume. Everyone gets the notice and only the people who can assist at that time need to get back to the listowner to confirm their availability.

Good idea. I just added that to the site.

 
A separate issue: what's the current character limit on user names? Currently on Wiggio, I can add people and include their full name plus organization they're with so when they post messages, the group can easily identify them. It's important for us to have that as it saves some questions back and forth in our network and cuts down on email volume.

Realistically, there's no limit (I mean, there is, but you shouldn't bump into it). 

 
When they post messages, this comes through in the FROM field of the email:
FirstName LastName OrganizationSTATE <groupname@...>
 
If you invite them like that, and they post from the web site, their messages will come through like that. If they post via email, whatever name their email client is configured to use will come through. I'm guessing, but I don't think people would like us to muck with that.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: New Subscription Options

Laurence Taylor
 

On 26 Jan 2015 15:04, robertgmam@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

_._,_._,_
KKT?

What?

Robert.
The symbols that appeared at the bottom of your post formed the letters
KKT in Morse.

They seem to be something produced by Groups IO; they only appear
occasionally and on posts from various people.

Both K and T are used at the end of an "over", i.e., as an invitation to
transmit.

73 DE G7MZH :)

--
rgds
LAurence
<><


locked Re: Site updates #changelog

Duane
 

Thank you very much!

Duane


locked Re: Calendar is live

 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:35 am, Shal Farley shal@... wrote:

Perhaps the calendar ought to operate on the same principle as the messages: a member can only edit or delete an event they created.

I just pushed this change. It will only be in effect for new events; we didn't track who created events up until now. For old events, the old behavior still applies.

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:36 pm, D R Stinson dano@... wrote:

I think this is going to be a disaster for our groups. We have some pretty unsophisticated users who will most likely just start typing without deleting anything. If it could be invoked with a "Quote previous message" button on the bottom for only those who know how to use it, I suspect that would help those who want to quote previous while removing the temptation for those who really shouldn't.

I've added back the Show Message History button behavior, but renamed it to Insert Quoted Message.

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Neo is broken again

 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:
Chris Leong wrote:>>My personal opinion is that this is kind of off-topic for the Beta group. I'd prefer for all content in the Beta group to actually be about Groups.io.<<

That's why I replied and asked her if she had meant to send it to the MM Sanctuary group, which is on IO, because it was about NEO, But she explained it, so it's up to Mark to decide what's off topic and isn't..


I worry that this group is active enough as is, so I'd like to keep the conversation about Groups.io.

Thanks!
Mark 


locked Re: Calendar is live

 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:35 am, Shal Farley shal@... wrote:

Perhaps the calendar ought to operate on the same principle as the messages: a member can only edit or delete an event they created.

I think this makes sense. I've added it to the todo list.

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Calendar is live

Duane
 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:35 am, Shal Farley <shal@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Perhaps the calendar ought to operate on the same principle as the
messages: a member can only edit or delete an event they created.


Probably better done through an explicit RSVP mechanism than by general
editing of the event.

-- Shal
Those were my thoughts on both, but I never know when someone else might have a better idea. I know Mark has RSVP on his list, but this could be used until then if it would help. To be honest, I'd rather have the limited editing, so the RSVP part was more an afterthought.

Duane


locked Re: Calendar is live

 

Duane,

I have the Calendar set for "Subscribers can view and edit".
Unfortunately, that means that someone could accidentally (or
intentionally) change an event.
Perhaps the calendar ought to operate on the same principle as the messages: a member can only edit or delete an event they created.

On the other hand, the current capability could be used as a sort of
RSVP where attendees added their names to the event.
Probably better done through an explicit RSVP mechanism than by general editing of the event.

-- Shal


locked Re: Calendar is live

 

This one's a non-issue for my groups. Our members would never have reason to bother with the calendar. Mods handle it. Just posting for feedback from a different user type...

Trish

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
A couple of people on one of our groups (and I) have a concern.  I have the Calendar set for "Subscribers can view and edit".  Unfortunately, that means that someone could accidentally (or intentionally) change an event.  If it's worth doing, I think it would be safer to only allow the originator or moderators to make changes to an existing event.  I'm sure it can be done, just not sure if it's worth the effort.  On the other hand, the current capability could be used as a sort of RSVP where attendees added their names to the event.  Decisions, decisions...

Duane








locked Re: Neo is broken again

Nightowl >8#
 

Chris Leong wrote:>>My personal opinion is that this is kind of off-topic for the Beta group. I'd prefer for all content in the Beta group to actually be about Groups.io.<<

That's why I replied and asked her if she had meant to send it to the MM Sanctuary group, which is on IO, because it was about NEO, But she explained it, so it's up to Mark to decide what's off topic and isn't.

Brenda


locked Re: Neo is broken again

 

On 1/29/2015 11:32 PM, Feathered Leader wrote:
Diana, were you trying to send it to the IO MM Sanctuary group? Or did you mean to send it to Beta? Because we do have the MM Sanctuary group here.
No - beta. I'm not a MM member on groups.io
but I know a lot of the MMYG folks are here, too.

dg


locked Re: Calendar is live

Duane
 

A couple of people on one of our groups (and I) have a concern. I have the Calendar set for "Subscribers can view and edit". Unfortunately, that means that someone could accidentally (or intentionally) change an event. If it's worth doing, I think it would be safer to only allow the originator or moderators to make changes to an existing event. I'm sure it can be done, just not sure if it's worth the effort. On the other hand, the current capability could be used as a sort of RSVP where attendees added their names to the event. Decisions, decisions...

Duane


locked Re: Neo is broken again

 

My personal opinion is that this is kind of off-topic for the Beta group. I'd prefer for all content in the Beta group to actually be about Groups.io.


locked Re: Neo is broken again

Nightowl >8#
 

Diana Gregory wrote:>> I just sent the following to the M&M yahoogroup, so if you see it twice, it's on purpose. I know that a lot of folks are reading beta more than M&M, which is why I'm sending it here.<<

Diana, were you trying to send it to the IO MM Sanctuary group? Or did you mean to send it to Beta? Because we do have the MM Sanctuary group here.

I feel awful that there's nothing I can do, but you are right, Neo is breaking more and more daily. The other day I got thrown out of the address list 4 times without being able to retrieve what I wanted.

Brenda


locked Re: Wiki

 

Duane,

In addition to moderation of modifications, allow the owner/moderator to
Lock /Unlock each page if Subscribers have "view and edit" permissions.
I agree, this would be very useful.

This would be akin to the ability in (Classic) Yahoo Groups to set access control on a per-table basis in the database and on a per-album basis in Photos.

-- Shal


locked Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 05:32 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Changes to the site today:

- Removed Show Message History button, quoting message by default for markdown/plain text messages
. . . . . .
Mark -
I think this is going to be a disaster for our groups. We have some pretty unsophisticated users who will most likely just start typing without deleting anything. If it could be invoked with a "Quote previous message" button on the bottom for only those who know how to use it, I suspect that would help those who want to quote previous while removing the temptation for those who really shouldn't.

Having said that, I really like the way it allows in-line posting in a very convenient format. It's well worth keeping, but we need to make it an option instead of a default.

Dano


locked Re: Getting copies of the messages you send

David P. Dillard
 

I fully agree. Due, for me, to our dear friends at Google, I need to to all over the web and waste substantial time to make sure my posts have cleared on discussion groups I post to and the like.




Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@temple.edu

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015, Laurence Taylor wrote:

On 28 Jan 2015 15:53, Mark Fletcher wrote:


It sounds like many people want to have the messages they send to
groups show up in their mailbox. Should I enable that for all groups
and all users? Can you see any downside with doing so?
Yes please. No, I don't see any disadvantage with it; people who don't
want to see what they wrote can always add a filter. I suppose you could
make it switchable as I mentioned before, but I've never actually come
across anyone who specifically wanted not to see their own post through
the relay.


--
rgds
LAurence
<><




locked Re: disallow invitations

 

Ronaldo,

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Is it a setting for possible
members to not get invites?
Yes.

In your Y! Groups Email Preferences page when you Edit the options for your email address there is a checkbox to "Allow group moderators to invite me to their groups" (checked by default). There previously was also one for allowing direct Add, but that went away when direct Add did.

-- Shal


locked disallow invitations

ro-esp
 

2a. Re: Group transfers feedback so far
From: Duane <txpigeon@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 04:46:34 PST

On a somewhat related item, YG has/had a setting to disallow
invitations. I think this could be useful at times. The invitation
and add functions should be separate options.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Is it a setting for possible members to not get invites? Is it asetting for the groups.io to ban moderators from sending invites (like after they've abused the feature)?


groetjes, Ronaldo