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locked Re: Files - search

Duane
 

Still a couple of glitches. Search doesn't seem to work in a folder, it apparently searches in the main level, though this might be by design. I got some strange results when I was in a Folder.

The fix for multiple pages works fine at the main level, but doesn't work in a folder. The multipage buttons are at the bottom of the folder, but clicking on any of them takes me to the main level. By altering the URL to include the folder name, it works.

Is there a way to show folders at the top? I think a lot of us are used to this layout and I'd prefer it for the default view.

Last night I uploaded an 11 MB file. When it finished, it dumped me to a editfile# page (sorry, I didn't note the exact wording) with Hello on it. I said a few choice words, then realized it actually uploaded. This morning I uploaded the same file to another group and it went back to the Files page properly when finished.

On the error message for duplicate uploading, it would be nice if it checked the name before uploading the file.

Thanks,
Duane


locked Re: Getting copies of the messages you send

 

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:19 AM, <robertgmam@...> wrote:
Yes please, Mark. It's what I'm used to with Yahell.


FYI, Yahoo Groups does exactly what Groups.io does right now. If you use Gmail, for example, and send a message to a Y! Group, you will not receive a copy of that message back in your Gmail.

Mark 


locked Re: Calendar is live

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:10 pm, Duane txpigeon@... wrote:

I think I found another glitch on the calendar. I set up an event for July, set reminders for 4 weeks and 8 weeks, and added it. When I clicked on the event, it had changed them to minutes. I also tried setting it to hours and days, but it still shows minutes when I go back in.

Good catch. Fixed!

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Getting copies of the messages you send

 

On 1/28/2015 7:53 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It sounds like many people want to have the messages they send to groups
show up in their mailbox. Should I enable that for all groups and all
users? Can you see any downside with doing so?
I suspect that anyone who is used to any listerver
other than LSoft is going to expect it. I don't
know of any way to turn it off on Yahoo or Google,
and I *think* I remember that it's possible with
MailMan, but none of my Y refugees wanted it
implemented if so. LSoft has "noack" - it's not
your message but an acknowledgement that your
message made it, as well as the other setting that
lets you not see your own posts, and it was a
subscriber option, not a list option. Can't remember
with Lyris either - but again I never implemented
it when I was using a Lyris server, so the only list
I don't see my own messages on is the old PSU list
running on LSoft (I think it was the default in 1989
when I joined that list!).

Which is a very long way of saying - I don't see any
downside.

dg


locked Re: Getting copies of the messages you send

 

Yes please, Mark. It's what I'm used to with Yahell.

Regards,
Robert.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the O2 network.
From: Mark Fletcher
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2015 15:53
To: beta@groups.io
Reply To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Getting copies of the messages you send

All,

It sounds like many people want to have the messages they send to groups show up in their mailbox. Should I enable that for all groups and all users? Can you see any downside with doing so?

Thanks, Mark



locked Re: Files - search

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:36 pm, Duane txpigeon@... wrote:

I think I just found one. When there are more than 20 files, main or folder, I can't find a way to see the rest. I can invert the list and see the last 20, but it would be a real problem with more than 40.

Oops! Fixed.

Also noticed that if I accidentally try to upload a file with the same name, it acts like it's uploading, but the old one is still there and no error message.

There definitely should be an error message there. It's not a quick fix, so I'll add it to the todo list.

Thanks, Mark


locked Getting copies of the messages you send

 

All,

It sounds like many people want to have the messages they send to groups show up in their mailbox. Should I enable that for all groups and all users? Can you see any downside with doing so?

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Post preference, show message history, emoji

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:21 pm, Shal Farley shal@... wrote:

that works similarly to how Y! Groups' button works, to insert the quoted message in the reply box.

Can I have mine shown (inserted) by default? I almost always want to inline quote for context.

I think it makes sense to just remove that button and have the message quoted in the reply box.

And... I love breaking the rules by not wrapping my plain text message bodies (because that generally works better with other people's email services and with on-line message archives that dynamically word-wrap at the window width); but I don't like that at all for quoted text. So could I have a wrap button that re-wraps paragraphs (blank line separated) and if the paragraph is reply quoted ("> ") inserts the quote marking on each of the wrapped lines. Note, a line with only the quote marking should also be considered a paragraph separator.

So, when quoting a message for reply, you want long lines wrapped? Around what # of characters per line, 78? FWIW, the emails currently generated with long quoted lines not wrapped still look fine (like your paragraph here).

Thanks, Mark


locked Re: Links?

David P. Dillard
 

..


That is a feature I would greatly value, public or private and the option for either would be great.

..

Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@temple.edu


..


On Wed, 28 Jan 2015, pnrfan@gmail.com wrote:

Will there eventually be a links feature on the menu?
Trish

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locked Re: Links?

Frances
 

I used the wiki to create several pages of links. Easy to do.

Frances

On Jan 28 15, at 6:39 AM, pnrfan@... wrote:

Will there eventually be a links feature on the menu?

Trish


locked Links?

 

Will there eventually be a links feature on the menu?

Trish


locked auto-trim again

ro-esp
 

[I change the subject line so people can find it]

3a. Re: [beta] Re: Beta Digest
From: Laurence Taylor <g7mzh@gmx.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 06:32:28 PST

On 24/01/2015 12:20, ro-esp wrote:

Mark, will replying in the reply box allow that reply to show at the top
of the message or do you at least have an option?
As much as I hate that, I don't think it can be banned without pissing
off a load of people who prefer it that way
And we shouldn't do that because? :-)
:-)

Yes, and that's why I request an (optional!!) autotrim-feature like
some googlegroups have. It simply deletes everything under the last
unindented line, before the message is sent. Ideally (....) the cursor
would be positioned at the start of the first written line UNDER the "
at date and time, userxy@domain.pq sent:"
This is probably more of a luxury, but I've seen it done: reject any
message that has less original content than quoted. Will soon put a stop
to those people who quote the last 46 messages just to say "me too".
Would that be programmable? Even if it is, it's not uncommon in discussion-type groups that the reply sometimes is a lot shorter than the quote.

groetjes, Ronaldo



--
http://www.esperanto.net http://www.moneyasdebt.net


locked Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group

 

David,

I have actually seen this work with some of my posts that are on lists
that are moderated and the owner/moderator forwards the message to the
list members. I do receive such messages in my email even though I sent
the message.
If you literally mean Forward (as in the action taken in an email client) rather than Approve (in the sense Yahoo Groups and Groups.io uses it) then yes - the forwarded message would have a unique Message-ID.

One of the suggested solutions to the unseen moderator edit problem is to have the list service replace the Message-ID if any moderator edits the message while pending (and not if the only change to the outbound message body is the automatically appended list footers). I don't know if I'd want Groups.io to do that, but I think there is some merit to the argument that an edited message outbound isn't the same message as that which came in.

-- Shal


locked Re: Another observation - this time about trailing trash

 

Dano,

I'd just like a way to limit the amount of unchanged text. Maybe even a
limited number of lines after the latest new text. I'm just trying to
ponder this out.
I'd want an algorithm that removes 2nd level quotes and beyond.

Easy to say, probably a lot harder to do that it seems. The simple cases probably work ok, but in a system that has lots of users one probably runs headlong into a thicket of exceptions.

One advantage a system like Groups.io has is that it may be able to use more than the content of the message at hand: it potentially could follow the thread backward through the archive seeking correlated word sequences to remove. That is, the first-level quoted material would be present only in the direct predecessor to this message. Second and higher level quoted material would be present in multiple messages in the archive.

-- Shal


locked Re: Files - search

Duane
 
Edited

I think I just found one. When there are more than 20 files, main or folder, I can't find a way to see the rest. I can invert the list and see the last 20, but it would be a real problem with more than 40.

Also noticed that if I accidentally try to upload a file with the same name, it acts like it's uploading, but the old one is still there and no error message.


Duane



locked Re: Post preference, show message history, emoji

 

I agree with Shal on both of these points because that's the most obvious to people who don't see as well, and it's the way I personally prefer.
Dano


locked Re: Post preference, show message history, emoji

 

Mark,

For Markdown and Plain reply boxes, there's a new Show Message History
button, ...
I really hate that terminology. It seems to cause a lot of user confusion versus the message thread context surrounding the message and its reply edit box. How about "Insert Quoted Message" - to me that better describes what it does.

that works similarly to how Y! Groups' button works, to insert the
quoted message in the reply box.
Can I have mine shown (inserted) by default? I almost always want to inline quote for context.

And... I love breaking the rules by not wrapping my plain text message bodies (because that generally works better with other people's email services and with on-line message archives that dynamically word-wrap at the window width); but I don't like that at all for quoted text. So could I have a wrap button that re-wraps paragraphs (blank line separated) and if the paragraph is reply quoted ("> ") inserts the quote marking on each of the wrapped lines. Note, a line with only the quote marking should also be considered a paragraph separator.

-- Shal


locked Customizing invitation message

 

I'm trying to customize an invitation message to send to prospective new members. Does that particular text box on the 'Invitation To Be Sent' allow hard returns? I'd like to break my note into a couple paragraphs, but it all comes out as one big paragraph. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!
Dano


locked Re: Calendar is live

Duane
 

I think I found another glitch on the calendar. I set up an event for July, set reminders for 4 weeks and 8 weeks, and added it. When I clicked on the event, it had changed them to minutes. I also tried setting it to hours and days, but it still shows minutes when I go back in.

Duane


locked Re: Not getting copies of messages I sent to my group

David P. Dillard
 

Mr Google and Mr Gmail will be most upset by this development. <g>



Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
jwne@temple.edu

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, pnrfan@gmail.com wrote:

Sounds like a sweet deal to me! Looking forward to it.
Trish
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Shal Farley <shal@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Trish,

> If Mark says he's got a workaround planned,
> I'll just wait and see if that fixes it for me.

The work-around probably replaces the Message-ID inserted by Gmail with one generated by Groups.io. If that's the
case it will undoubtedly work for you and everyone - Gmail would no longer think that it is the same message coming
back.

-- Shal