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moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

 

p.s. Mark, maybe you could make the new editor an "opt out" instead of an "opt in" until it settles down? That way you'd still get a lot of volunteer testers. 
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moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

 

It's definitely not working, and also the autosigs are disappearing, seemingly randomly.
Any chance of going back to the old editor until the bugs are worked out? Or are we still technically in beta, so anything goes? ;)
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moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

 

Mark & All,

I just pushed changes so that the new HTML editor is live for
everyone for all instances on the website except for editing wiki
pages (that will require a bit more work).
I added a page in GMF's wiki to gather tips on using the new editor.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks

Corrections and additions are welcome. Comments and Questions can be directed to GMF's messages.

Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


moderated Re: New HTML footer

 

Hi Mark,

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Mark Pedersen <mpeder21@...> wrote:
One group I administer has asked if their links to Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram can be included in every sent message. I have done that using the footer field in the options, but now they're asking of the footer could include (or, better yet, substitute) the Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram icons which, when clicked, would go to those pages for the group. Is that possible?
_._,_._,_
It's not currently possible (footers are plain text right now). I could see making them HTML, but then the issue of including icons would be tricky.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: remove "active" badge for "member notices" that are not of the automated types #suggestion

 

J, Shal,

I've removed the active display/checkbox for 'Message to Member' notices. As for invite/direct add messages, my thought was that I was going to make them act more 'normally', that is, there'd be a drop box to select one at the time of invite (the active one would be filled out automatically). But I hadn't/haven't thought through the issues with editing the existing message, or creating a new one 'on the fly' like you can do now.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 8:21 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 07:31 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
But I'm wondering if maybe there ought to be.

Maybe, but some of this I disagree with. I find the saved text from the previous invite or add distinctly annoying, and have to get rid of it every time (and once I forgot to delete it and accidentally sent the prior customized text to the next person). I'll bow out of this for now... 
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moderated Re: Group by topic and hide archive

 

Hi,

If I understand the questions, you want to know if you can merge topics (you can), and if you can collapse parts of messages that are replies (not manually). We try to detect quoted parts of messages and automatically collapse them, but it's tricky and we don't catch everything.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:

Video explain the problems

https://groups.io/g/TheSeaofClaws/message/8





moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:14 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
INTERNAL: Developed api test harness for development of iOS/Android app.

It's possible to imagine to futur a app like Facebook Groups?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.groups


Yes, if all goes well, in a few months, there will be a real Groups.io app, for both iOS and Android. Also, for enterprise groups, they will have their own, branded app.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Merge messages to account

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:

After Y!G transfer some profil and message are not linked to account. Possibility to merge message to account?


Unfortunately, doing some of that can be super tricky and time consuming. 

Mark 


moderated Re: Poll on mobile view

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:

The number of vote is not well placed.


Good catch. Should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Chat notification

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Benoît Dumeaux <benoit.dumeaux@...> wrote:

Possibility to be notify when news message send to chat.

That will happen as part of the notifications overhaul. 

Possibility to edit Chat messages

Maybe. But I'd put it way down on the list of priorities.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

No, I don't think you're sleep deprived.

I have had this happen on more than one occasion and I thought (and I could be mistaken) that I'd already reported it to Mark through the support e-mail.  The "select text you want quoted" then use the Reply link is not working consistently, or at least wasn't, and I have to believe still isn't.
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moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

 

It worked on about the fifth try. I must be sleep-deprived or something. ;)
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moderated Re: New editor live for everyone

 

I just tried to quote a message in my reply and the excerpt didn't automatically show up as it used to. How is this done now? Thanks!
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moderated New editor live for everyone

 

Hi All,

I just pushed changes so that the new HTML editor is live for everyone for all instances on the website except for editing wiki pages (that will require a bit more work). It's definitely better than the old editor: hitting enter results in one line, instead of two. Also, if you're replying to a message and want to reply in-line, you can hit enter and the block quote is automatically broken up (I found a way Brian). And, it should handle cutting/pasting better.

This was major surgery throughout the site, and while I tested everything, please let me know if something looks weird.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices #suggestion

 

Also, the simplest way to implement this would probably be to have settings for "moderated topic message" and "locked topic message." If either was blank, nothing would be posted for that case. If filled in, each would post automatically when a thread is moderated or locked, respectively. You could only have a single message for each, but at least this way you wouldn't need any dropdowns.  

p.s. I tried to send this as an email before but something went weird with my connection. Forgive redundancy if it appears twice...
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moderated Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices #suggestion

 

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 11:48 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
I am unclear as to whether you're talking about sending out a separate notice message or adding text such as you propose as the "next message on the thread"

I'm talking about making it the next message in a thread (which of course would also be the last, if the thread is being locked). 
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moderated Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices #suggestion

 

Brian,

Of course. I'm talking about two different messages (possibly even more), and I gave a very tentative example of one that could be used for moderation. It's a draft and we're still working out the details. The example actually started out as the message for locking, but morphed into one for moderation (since we have a couple of members on "override - can post"). Both are going to change a lot by the time we start using them.

Forget the actual text. The text I posted is a work in progress and would be different for each group in any case.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

J,

         I think the automated part would be great, but I am unclear as to whether you're talking about sending out a separate notice message or adding text such as you propose as the "next message on the thread" when it goes on moderated status.  I think the latter makes sense.

        Also, and it's a nit, but you say "locking or moderation" and go on to give an example of what my gut tells me was meant to be the grand, unified notice but that refers only to moderation.  I'd say that two different messages would be preferable, one for locking and one for moderation, but the group owner can designate the exact text for each (and use the same text if that's what they want to do).  I'd be a bit more stern in the message I'd post were a thread to be locked secondary to "behavioral issues" than I would for one moderated for what are typically much milder "behavioral issues."
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moderated automated, customizable "topic closed" and "topic moderated" notices #suggestion

 

Our group has concocted a "topic on moderation" message with the goal of being friendlier towards the well-meaning (and well-behaving) group members who have been posting in a thread that needs locking or moderation. It goes something like this:

"Thank you to those who have participated in this thread. In our effort to balance the often competing goals of increasing helpfulness, accuracy, and camaraderie while decreasing distraction, misleading information, and clutter, this thread is now going on moderated status. All replies to it by everyone except Dr. X and members of the administrative team will require approval." 

The idea was suggested by a member of our admin team and we are working out the details, but I immediately had the impulse to want it to be automated. So, is this possible? Could there be a customizable message for the lock and moderate topic situations that moderators can click on to include as the last post in a thread before it goes on moderation or is locked? I suppose it would require a new message category in "member notices," possibly "topic notice"? Then when you click on "moderate topic" or "lock topic," a dropdown would come up. Or something. Not sure whether this is more trouble than it's worth, but it would be very convenient for our group.

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Re: Spam/bogus join requests

Taffman <webmaster@...>
 

Thank you Mark, that should help. I favour the approach taken by the e107 CMS sign up process. In e107 the site admin can define sign up questions and which or these are mandatory, for closed user groups simply asking them for their name and community membership number for example should be enough for the list moderator to quickly spot the genuine from the bogus. We are not plagued by this ourselves but it would help prevent the asking new sign ups for this info before allowing them onto the list.

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