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Re: Spam/bogus join requests

 

We are getting swamped witth these. We've gone from 7-15 pending members a day to 50-100.

The problem, Shal, is firstly the sheer volume (trying to fiind the person to approve in a list of five pages) but mainIy it's that we no longer know who is legitimate, so the people who are legitimate are no longer getting the help they need to join the group. We used to leave members pending for 3-5 days and send reminders to them but if we leave them for five days I could end up with 250 pending members or more. Even though I no longer give them so long to respond, we regularly have three pages worth of so-called pending members. I just rejected 115 or so this morning.

It's pretty obvious with some of them (I kind of guessed with donotreplyATairbnb.com), and when I had a host of them from one particular Russian company domain (weird that all the staff suddenly had sick cats), but I can't tell with all the gmail and yahoo addresses.

Ideally I'd like groups.io to somehow filter the baddies (this never used to happen, but I do have a join option on my website, I don't know if that's a factor) but I know that's easier said than done. At the moment I'd prefer the NC members not to show (they never did with yahoo!groups) but since I then wouldn't know about the legitimate NC members, maybe the system could send the confirmation e-mail to them every day.

I'm open to other suggestions.

Thanks.

Helen

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 03:34 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

What is it the restricted group mods don't like?

That is, it is perilous to suggest mitigation ideas when I don't know
what it is they don't like having to "deal with".

Is it the pending member notification? Maybe that can be deferred until
the person confirms. Or maybe notification of an unconfirmed pending
member is a separate notification checkbox.

Is it the mere presence of these NC members in their Members list? I
don't see much hope for that without breaking the ability for mods to
help legit but NC members get confirmed. Maybe a "confirmed only" view
of the list in addition to Moderators, Pending, Bouncing and Banned?


moderated Re: Photos and files

Jean Bennett
 

From our group's perspective, we would prefer to keep things the way they are.  We like the Photos section with its ability to sort photos into Albums - and we use the Files section very little.  Please don't change it.  If some Groups.io members need the ability to include photos in Files and some don't (and we are among those who don't), then the option of turning the feature off seems more appropriate.

Jean

#OrlandoStrong


moderated Re: allow select members to post unmoderated in a moderated topic (would "override not moderated" do this?) #suggestion

 

Great, thanks!
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moderated Re: Photos and files

 

I wouldn't mind if they're under one roof (although it may get confusing?), but we do need to allow photos in the Files section if they stay separate sections.

J

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moderated Re: Vacation

Douglas Swearingen
 

Have a great vacation Mark.  IF any of us deserve one it is definitely you.

Have a Great time in Europe as well.  Thank You also for all you do to make Groups.io what it is.

Doug


On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:19 PM, Jim Ruby <jim@...> wrote:


Have a great time J
 
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:39 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Vacation
 
Hi All,
 
I will be on vacation from Monday 4/3, back on Wednesday 4/12. During this time I will be slow(er than normal) to respond to emails, and group transfer requests may be delayed. I'll be in Europe, so expect any responses to be during those daylight hours.
 
As usual, I will continue to monitor the site and respond to any issues during this time.
 
Thanks,
Mark



Re: Stopping posting of photos in the file section?

Duane
 

If I really needed to put a photo in the files section for some reason, I'd print it to a pdf file and upload that.

Duane


moderated Re: Photos and files

Tami D <artfulmuze@...>
 

I would have to go with No on this. We're big into photos and combining the two would get too confusing for our group members.

On 3/29/2017 3:04 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,

With the issue of people uploading photos to the files section and preventing that for some groups but not others, it had me wondering. Would it make sense to combine the Files and Photos sections into one section, Files?


moderated Re: Photos and files

Ro
 

Sorry, didnt read this carefully.  Obviously, it would negatively impact some groups to be forced to have photos in Files.  I am a believer in owner options.  Photos and files need to remain basically  separate, with the group owner allowed  to choose whether to allow photo uploads to files.

Ro



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-------- Original message --------
From: Sue <sue.tier@...>
Date: 3/29/17 13:12 (GMT-08:00)
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Photos and files

I would vote no on this one. We are not a photo heavy group but we do want to keep them separate from our files so we appreciate the blocking of photos to file folders.

 

Sue

 

>With the issue of people uploading photos to the files section and preventing that for some groups but not others, it had me wondering. Would it make sense to combine the Files and Photos sections into one section, Files? 

 


moderated Re: Photos and files

Ro
 

But the request is to make it an option for the group owner.  Default could  be no photos in files.  Those of us that need them, can click the option.   I dont understand why you want to prevent those of us that NEED this option from having it.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Sue <sue.tier@...>
Date: 3/29/17 13:12 (GMT-08:00)
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Photos and files

I would vote no on this one. We are not a photo heavy group but we do want to keep them separate from our files so we appreciate the blocking of photos to file folders.

 

Sue

 

>With the issue of people uploading photos to the files section and preventing that for some groups but not others, it had me wondering. Would it make sense to combine the Files and Photos sections into one section, Files? 

 


moderated Re: allow select members to post unmoderated in a moderated topic (would "override not moderated" do this?) #suggestion

 

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 7:40 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I currently have a topic on moderation but I would like to allow certain posters to post to it without the moderation, because I'd like any responses from them to reach the group as soon as possible. It would be convenient if "moderate topic" allowed an override for selected members. I tested the member setting "override - not moderated" and it does not accomplish this. Could that be changed?

I've changed it to behave this way now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Photos and files

Sue
 

I would vote no on this one. We are not a photo heavy group but we do want to keep them separate from our files so we appreciate the blocking of photos to file folders.

 

Sue

 

>With the issue of people uploading photos to the files section and preventing that for some groups but not others, it had me wondering. Would it make sense to combine the Files and Photos sections into one section, Files? 

 

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moderated Photos and files

 

Hi All,

With the issue of people uploading photos to the files section and preventing that for some groups but not others, it had me wondering. Would it make sense to combine the Files and Photos sections into one section, Files? 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Vacation

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Have a great time J

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:39 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Vacation

 

Hi All,

 

I will be on vacation from Monday 4/3, back on Wednesday 4/12. During this time I will be slow(er than normal) to respond to emails, and group transfer requests may be delayed. I'll be in Europe, so expect any responses to be during those daylight hours.

 

As usual, I will continue to monitor the site and respond to any issues during this time.

 

Thanks,

Mark


moderated Re: Vacation

 

(...said as I silently wring my hands and tear my hair and wonder what we are going to do without you....;)

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:13 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Mark, have a great vacation!
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Vacation

 

Mark, have a great vacation!
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Vacation

 

Hi All,

I will be on vacation from Monday 4/3, back on Wednesday 4/12. During this time I will be slow(er than normal) to respond to emails, and group transfer requests may be delayed. I'll be in Europe, so expect any responses to be during those daylight hours.

As usual, I will continue to monitor the site and respond to any issues during this time.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated rotating sticky wickys #suggestion

 

Could a set of wikis be selected to rotate as the sticky, something like every 2 days (or with a frequency that the group could set)?
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Yahoo Easy Group Transfer

 

Hi Dave,

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Dave Sergeant <dave@...> wrote:
Any update to this Mark? We are proposing to transfer our group very
soon, currently aiming at doing it around Easter weekend 14/17 April
when activity is traditionally low. I accept you probably don't work
over Easter.... but when should we aim to set the transfer in progress
to hit somewhere around then?


Transfer times are back to normal (ie. within one business day generally). I will be around Easter weekend, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: is rejection message auto-sent on automatic 14-day rejection of pending sub?

 

Mark, thanks. That makes sense.
J

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi J,

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:31 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Apologies for starting a new thread, but I couldn't find the old one about this. I notice that the new pending member notice to moderators provides the information that the membership will automatically be rejected after 14 days of inaction. I do remember that discussion and was in favor of the idea. However, I'm now wondering whether an automatic rejection notice goes out after that time. If so (or if not currently), could there be a message-type specifically for that purpose? 

Right now, no message is sent out if a pending subscriber is deleted after 14 days. Same as with pending messages that are deleted after 14 days.

Thanks,
Mark 



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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: is rejection message auto-sent on automatic 14-day rejection of pending sub?

 

Hi J,

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:31 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Apologies for starting a new thread, but I couldn't find the old one about this. I notice that the new pending member notice to moderators provides the information that the membership will automatically be rejected after 14 days of inaction. I do remember that discussion and was in favor of the idea. However, I'm now wondering whether an automatic rejection notice goes out after that time. If so (or if not currently), could there be a message-type specifically for that purpose? 

Right now, no message is sent out if a pending subscriber is deleted after 14 days. Same as with pending messages that are deleted after 14 days.

Thanks,
Mark 

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