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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Hi All, I have located and fixed the bug that caused Jennifer's email to contain screwed up characters. It had to do with the Normalize HTML Emails function. Jennifer, I still haven't been able to track down the bug you're seeing with reversed pasted snippets. I looked at message 14101, and the signature is in the correct order. I assume that means you manually re-ordered it before sending? Next time this happens, please leave the message as is (assuming you're composing a message), so that it will be in drafts, and let me know, and I'll investigate some more. And if anyone else sees this, please let me know. Thanks, Mark
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Jennifer Christian <jhchristian@...> wrote:
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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Sue
Well I received the same as J_Catlady on a W7 laptop using Outlook - just in
case that helps further. Sue
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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Linda, hearing how it was received by others is a big part of why I wanted to put it out on beta. I'd already noticed, for example, that the weird symbols don't appear on my iPhone's mail program, but do appear on my mac using gmail through safari. Thanks for the data point.
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On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:36 AM, Linda <lindon@thetravelzine.com> wrote: --
J Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Linda
Hi,
Just for the record, the emailed version of Jennifer's message came through to my Window's Mail just as intended - no diacritical marks or weird characters. Linda
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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
If you haven't already, I'd report this to support@groups.io so it will be in the bug queue. There have been a few other odd things showing up and this may be related.
Duane
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Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Jennifer and all, I don't know the answer to your question, but am going to take it in another direction. I am pasting here what came through in the email version of your message. I've been having this problem with certain posters in my group but thought it had to do with my settings ("force HTML" or some other setting) and was getting my ducks lined up to send a cogent bug report to Mark. But now I see it happening here, too. So here is what I just received in email, copied and pasted. The problem, as Shal explained in my conversation on GMF about this, is that spaces are being replaced by "Latin Capital Letter A with Circumflex", aka U+00C2: Earlier today I was moderating a message on one of my groups and attempted to add a signature block as required by that group’s ground rules. I went to the Message archive online and found a signature block on a message previously sent by this member (from 2011). It was in the following order, each item on a different line:  (a) Member name; (b) Professional role, (c) Organization, (d) Location, (e) web address – url.  BUT, when I pasted it into the current message, the order was instantly and entirely reversed: e,d,c,b,a.  Last time it happened, I had copied the signature block from an email sitting in my Outlook folder on my laptop. This time I was “in†Groups.io online. -- Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block
Earlier today I was moderating a message on one of my groups and attempted to add a signature block as required by that group’s ground rules. I went to the Message archive online and found a signature block on a message previously sent by this member (from 2011). It was in the following order, each item on a different line: (a) Member name; (b) Professional role, (c) Organization, (d) Location, (e) web address – url. BUT, when I pasted it into the current message, the order was instantly and entirely reversed: e,d,c,b,a. Last time it happened, I had copied the signature block from an email sitting in my Outlook folder on my laptop. This time I was “in” Groups.io online. I / we have reported this issue before. Did Mark ever try to do anything about it? (Sorry if I sound ignorant; I don’t follow all Beta postings every day – although I do try to skim the topic headings in each digest I receive ). The message in question was in the WFDRoundtable group, message # 14101 which I approved at 12:05 today. It was sent by the member on March 15. Cordially,
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Lock or moderate topic after x number of posts
#suggestion
It's now possible to lock or moderate a topic after a certain number of days. It would be nice if we could also choose to do those after x number of posts. It's currently impractical to rename or split a topic, because people keep responding to both topics by email and think they're staying in the same conversation, which used to cause frequent chaos in my group. So I simply don't rename or split threads any more. But if an extremely long topic could be automatically locked, that would often be very helpful, and then a new topic could be started. Of course, any topic can be locked by hand; but an a priori announcement informing members that they are locked automatically after a certain number of posts would avoid having to explain it each time. Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones. I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
Thanks for all the work you do to make this group better, Mark. Doug
On Friday, March 17, 2017 6:23 PM, Charlie Jenkins <sk8erbyker@...> wrote: Thanks Mark! Thanks, Charlie On Mar 17, 2017 6:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Have a good weekend everybody. Mark
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Re: Ability to move a message from one group to another
#suggestion
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
As I believe we've talked about here before, I definitely want to add the ability to move messages/topics between subgroups. I think that's doable, but I haven't had a chance to think through all the permissions issues (even if there are any). As for moving between stand-alone groups, I think that'd be a bit more challenging. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Ability to move a message from one group to another
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BC doesn't seem to use groups, they use forums. Since that entire site is owned by one person (or group of people) they can move things around easily. I don't see any way it could work here with so many owners. Maybe between my own groups, but it's really not necessary. If someone posts to one of my groups, but the wrong one, I lock the topic, send them a message of where it should be, then delete the original a few days later. Everyone is learning and it doesn't happen much any more.
Duane
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
Charlie Jenkins <sk8erbyker@...>
Thanks Mark! Thanks, Charlie
On Mar 17, 2017 6:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
Hi, I second the suggestion of ability to configure this and pending message timeout. Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:04 PM To: beta@groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion
That works Mark. You might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the aging period. 72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups that I moderate. On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
That works Mark. You
might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the
aging period. 72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups
that I moderate.
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On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
Sugar Lopez
Awesome Tthank you Sugar
“Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:
This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote: I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them. This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish. Thanks, Mark
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Ability to move a message from one group to another
#suggestion
Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
I realize that Groups.io is "a big world" and that the following is a non-trivial request, but it works so well on BleepingComputer (BC) that I can see the general utility of this function here. Very often a given individual sends/posts a message to a group where it's really "not appropriate" and, as a result, will not likely get the attention it deserves and would get if it were appropriately placed. Very often the owner/moderator of the group where something lands actually knows where it might be better placed. When that's the case on BC a moderator can move that message to the appropriate group and a "forwarding place holder" is left in the original location that directly shoots anyone using the web interface to the new location. This is complicated here because there are so many groups with so many owners and there would need to be some request/permission granting mechanism for a move along with the complications related to the e-mail interface. How one would get an email stream to "redirect" if a topic is moved would be challenging, to say the least. Still, it's worth thinking about even if for the distant future. Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught. ~ Winston Churchill
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Set timeout period for pending subscribers
#suggestion
Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...>
I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.
Sent from my iPhone 6s
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Re: BUG??? Message not posting
Don, On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote: I sent a message to a group that I am an owner in on 3/15 at just There are no message delays that I know of. I checked and the last message before this one that we saw posted from your email address was on the 12th. You might try posting from the website. Perhaps there's an issue with your email client? In the future, these types of questions are probably best served by sending a message to support@groups.io instead of to beta@. Thanks, Mark
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