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moderated Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block

 

Linda, hearing how it was received by others is a big part of why I wanted to put it out on beta. I'd already noticed, for example, that the weird symbols don't appear on my iPhone's mail program, but do appear on my mac using gmail through safari. Thanks for the data point.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:36 AM, Linda <lindon@thetravelzine.com> wrote:

Hi,
Just for the record, the emailed version of Jennifer's message came through to my Window's Mail just as intended - no diacritical marks or weird characters.

Linda


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block

Linda
 

Hi,
Just for the record, the emailed version of Jennifer's message came through to my Window's Mail just as intended - no diacritical marks or weird characters.

Linda


moderated Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block

Duane
 

If you haven't already, I'd report this to support@groups.io so it will be in the bug queue. There have been a few other odd things showing up and this may be related.

Duane


moderated Re: FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block

 

Jennifer and all,

I don't know the answer to your question, but am going to take it in another direction. I am pasting here what came through in the email version of your message. I've been having this problem with certain posters in my group but thought it had to do with my settings ("force HTML" or some other setting) and was getting my ducks lined up to send a cogent bug report to Mark. But now I see it happening here, too. So here is what I just received in email, copied and pasted. The problem, as Shal explained in my conversation on GMF about this, is that spaces are being replaced by "Latin Capital Letter A with Circumflex", aka U+00C2:

Earlier today I was moderating a message on one of my groups and attempted to add a signature block as required by that group’s ground rules.  I went to the Message archive online and found a signature block on a message previously sent by this member (from 2011).  It was in thfollowing order, each item on a different line:   (a) Member name; (b) Professional role, (c) Organization, (d) Location, (e) web address – url.   BUT, when I pasted it into the current message, the order was instantly and entirely reversed:  e,d,c,b,a.   Last time it happened, I had copied the signature block from an email sitting in my Outlook folder on my laptop.  This time I was “in†Groups.io online. 

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated FW: System still inverts moderator's pasted-in signature block

Jennifer Christian
 

Earlier today I was moderating a message on one of my groups and attempted to add a signature block as required by that group’s ground rules.  I went to the Message archive online and found a signature block on a message previously sent by this member (from 2011).  It was in the following order, each item on a different line:   (a) Member name; (b) Professional role, (c) Organization, (d) Location, (e) web address – url.   BUT, when I pasted it into the current message, the order was instantly and entirely reversed:  e,d,c,b,a.   Last time it happened, I had copied the signature block from an email sitting in my Outlook folder on my laptop.  This time I was “in” Groups.io online. 

I / we have reported this issue before.   Did Mark ever try to do anything about it?   (Sorry if I sound ignorant;  I don’t follow all Beta postings every day – although I do try to skim the topic headings in each digest I receive ).

The message in question was in the WFDRoundtable group, message # 14101 which I approved at 12:05 today.  It was sent by the member on March 15.

Cordially,
Jennifer Christian, MD, MPH
Moderator, Work Fitness & Disability Roundtable

 


moderated Lock or moderate topic after x number of posts #suggestion

 

It's now possible to lock or moderate a topic after a certain number of days. It would be nice if we could also choose to do those after x number of posts.

It's currently impractical to rename or split a topic, because people keep responding to both topics by email and think they're staying in the same conversation, which used to cause frequent chaos in my group. So I simply don't rename or split threads any more. But if an extremely long topic could be automatically locked, that would often be very helpful, and then a new topic could be started.

Of course, any topic can be locked by hand; but an a priori announcement informing members that they are locked automatically after a certain number of posts would avoid having to explain it each time.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

Douglas Swearingen
 

Thanks for all the work you do to make this group better, Mark.

Doug


On Friday, March 17, 2017 6:23 PM, Charlie Jenkins <sk8erbyker@...> wrote:


Thanks Mark! 


Thanks,
Charlie

On Mar 17, 2017 6:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
I second the suggestion of ability to configure this and pending message timeout. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:04 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion
 
That works Mark.  You might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the aging period.  72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups that I moderate.

David
group admin/owner for
larg, linuxham, nbems


On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@icloud. com> wrote:
I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.
This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.
 
Thanks,
Mark
 



moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Finished work on recurring billing system.
  • NEW: Pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same as pending messages. This is not turned on yet.
  • BUGFIX: Message-IDs for poll and chat notifications were missing <>s.
  • BUGFIX: When logged out and looking at the expanded message view, hashtags were not colored correctly.
  • BUGFIX: In activity log view, if you hit the search button twice, the actions would disappear.
  • BUGFIX: Fix for +summary email command.
  • NEW: New 'All Activity' view in Activity log.
  • CHANGE: Alphabetized actions dropdown in the group member activity history page.
  • BUGFIX: When viewing member activity history, clicking Search with 'All Activities' would not search all activities.
  • BUGFIX: When replying to a message on the web, the buttons weren't correct for groups with ReplyTo set to Group & Sender.
  • BUGFIX: If referencing an enterprise group page from a subdomain.groups.io domain, force redirect to proper domain.
  • CHANGE: Don't allow uploading of images to the Files area.
  • CHANGE: Added new high res version of the Groups.io logo for retina screens.
  • BUGFIX: Display of enterprise group subscriptions on the home page while viewing from groups.io was missing their domains.
  • BUGFIX: In the wiki image upload box, clear previous images that were uploaded.
  • INTERNAL: Reorganized some of the images used with enterprise groups.
  • BUGFIX: Fix lock timeout issue with updating repeating calendar events.
  • CHANGE: Set focus on input when search modal boxes are opened.

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated Re: Ability to move a message from one group to another #suggestion

 

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

I realize that Groups.io is "a big world" and that the following is a non-trivial request, but it works so well on BleepingComputer (BC) that I can see the general utility of this function here.

Very often a given individual sends/posts a message to a group where it's really "not appropriate" and, as a result, will not likely get the attention it deserves and would get if it were appropriately placed.

Very often the owner/moderator of the group where something lands actually knows where it might be better placed.  When that's the case on BC a moderator can move that message to the appropriate group and a "forwarding place holder" is left in the original location that directly shoots anyone using the web interface to the new location.

As I believe we've talked about here before, I definitely want to add the ability to move messages/topics between subgroups. I think that's doable, but I haven't had a chance to think through all the permissions issues (even if there are any). As for moving between stand-alone groups, I think that'd be a bit more challenging.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Ability to move a message from one group to another #suggestion

Duane
 

BC doesn't seem to use groups, they use forums. Since that entire site is owned by one person (or group of people) they can move things around easily. I don't see any way it could work here with so many owners. Maybe between my own groups, but it's really not necessary. If someone posts to one of my groups, but the wrong one, I lock the topic, send them a message of where it should be, then delete the original a few days later. Everyone is learning and it doesn't happen much any more.

Duane


moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

Charlie Jenkins <sk8erbyker@...>
 

Thanks Mark! 


Thanks,
Charlie

On Mar 17, 2017 6:09 PM, "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

I second the suggestion of ability to configure this and pending message timeout. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:04 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

 

That works Mark.  You might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the aging period.  72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups that I moderate.

David
group admin/owner for
larg, linuxham, nbems


On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@icloud.com> wrote:

I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.

 

Thanks,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

 

Hi,

I second the suggestion of ability to configure this and pending message timeout. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:04 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

 

That works Mark.  You might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the aging period.  72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups that I moderate.

David
group admin/owner for
larg, linuxham, nbems


On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:

I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.

 

Thanks,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

Dave
 

That works Mark.  You might want to consider giving the group owner a choice as to the aging period.  72 hours would be more appropriate for the groups that I moderate.

David
group admin/owner for
larg, linuxham, nbems


On 03/17/2017 05:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:
I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

Sugar Lopez
 

Awesome

Tthank you

Sugar

 

“Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my
trust in you. Show me the way I should go, for to you I entrust my life” (
Psalm 143:8).
-Sugar


 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 3:58 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:

I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.

 

Thanks,

Mark




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moderated Re: Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...> wrote:
I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

This is a good idea. I've updated the system so that pending subscriptions will be deleted after 14 days, same policy as pending messages. I will turn this on next Wednesday, to give everyone time to approve old pending subs if they wish.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Ability to move a message from one group to another #suggestion

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I realize that Groups.io is "a big world" and that the following is a non-trivial request, but it works so well on BleepingComputer (BC) that I can see the general utility of this function here.

Very often a given individual sends/posts a message to a group where it's really "not appropriate" and, as a result, will not likely get the attention it deserves and would get if it were appropriately placed.

Very often the owner/moderator of the group where something lands actually knows where it might be better placed.  When that's the case on BC a moderator can move that message to the appropriate group and a "forwarding place holder" is left in the original location that directly shoots anyone using the web interface to the new location.

This is complicated here because there are so many groups with so many owners and there would need to be some request/permission granting mechanism for a move along with the complications related to the e-mail interface.  How one would get an email stream to "redirect" if a topic is moved would be challenging, to say the least.

Still, it's worth thinking about even if for the distant future.
--
Brian

       Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught.

             ~ Winston Churchill


moderated Set timeout period for pending subscribers #suggestion

Armando <armando.elevatorfan@...>
 

I would like to be able to set a timeout period that will automatically reject new subscribers if they don't respond to the requirements to join my mailing list. We should have this feature because the moderators or the admins don't have to go into the pending subscriptions and reject them.

Sent from my iPhone 6s


moderated Re: BUG??? Message not posting

 

Don,

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
I sent a message to a group that I am an owner in on 3/15 at just
after 9 PM EDT. I hasn't posted yet. I re-sent it and while it hasn't
even very long, my messages typically post to the group within a few
minutes and it's been about 10 minutes with no post showing up.

There are no message delays that I know of.

I checked and the last message before this one that we saw posted from your email address was on the 12th. You might try posting from the website. Perhaps there's an issue with your email client?

In the future, these types of questions are probably best served by sending a message to support@groups.io instead of to beta@.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated BUG??? Message not posting

Donald Hellen
 

I sent a message to a group that I am an owner in on 3/15 at just
after 9 PM EDT. I hasn't posted yet. I re-sent it and while it hasn't
even very long, my messages typically post to the group within a few
minutes and it's been about 10 minutes with no post showing up.

I checked and I was on default group policy which moderates new
members only. I just changed that to over-ride, not moderated.

I've not received any bounced message error, either. Is this something
that just started, is it an isolated event, and how to I get this
fixed?

Thanks!!!

Donald


moderated Re: daily summary

 

Hi,

Also, please let me (the Win10 forum rep) know if something like this happens so both Mark and I can be made aware of this and similar problems.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 9:12 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] daily summary

 

Hello,

 

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Artin Dekker <artindekker@...> wrote:

Hi,

I tried to activate the daily summary option in the win10 group. I sent a message to win10+summary@win10.groups.io, but I got a message that the group win10 + summary did not exist. What's the problem here?

This should be fixed now.

 

In the future, for simple bugs like this, it's best to send them to support@groups.io

 

Thanks,

Mark 

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