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moderated Re: Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

Maria
 

Also a moderator can "claim" the message on this system so that other mods don't touch it and accidentally approve it.

Another great groups.io feature, which I think would resolve the issue you describe.

Maria


moderated Re: Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

But why couldn't they just delete or reject the message? This sounds like a moderator behavior issue rather than something calling for a software solution.

J

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On Mar 10, 2017, at 6:55 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

There might be times when a moderator or an owner may simply ignore a message, say, from a moderated member who posts a message that is considered off-topic. Another use case is to ignore spam from unregistered users or spambots,especially from places such as Linked In and what not and these are sent to the list address.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:54 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

I'm trying to understand this proposal, strictly out of curiosity. What do you mean that the message 'was not supposed to go to the list,' unless a moderator had already seen and rejected it? I'm not against this proposal but I don't understand it. It seems to be penalizing a group member for the group moderators' failure to act. ???

 

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

The following was observed on one of the lists I manage: an associate owner approved a message that was more than several days old and was not supposed to go to the list, causing confusion for some members.

 

Thus I’d like to propose having a timeout where group owners can specify how long a message needing to be approved stays until an automatic action is taken (remove the message, do not approve, etc.).

 

Thanks.
Cheers,

Josep


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

Hi,

There might be times when a moderator or an owner may simply ignore a message, say, from a moderated member who posts a message that is considered off-topic. Another use case is to ignore spam from unregistered users or spambots,especially from places such as Linked In and what not and these are sent to the list address.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 4:54 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

I'm trying to understand this proposal, strictly out of curiosity. What do you mean that the message 'was not supposed to go to the list,' unless a moderator had already seen and rejected it? I'm not against this proposal but I don't understand it. It seems to be penalizing a group member for the group moderators' failure to act. ???

 

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

The following was observed on one of the lists I manage: an associate owner approved a message that was more than several days old and was not supposed to go to the list, causing confusion for some members.

 

Thus I’d like to propose having a timeout where group owners can specify how long a message needing to be approved stays until an automatic action is taken (remove the message, do not approve, etc.).

 

Thanks.
Cheers,

Josep


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

I'm trying to understand this proposal, strictly out of curiosity. What do you mean that the message 'was not supposed to go to the list,' unless a moderator had already seen and rejected it? I'm not against this proposal but I don't understand it. It seems to be penalizing a group member for the group moderators' failure to act. ???

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:03 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

The following was observed on one of the lists I manage: an associate owner approved a message that was more than several days old and was not supposed to go to the list, causing confusion for some members.

 

Thus I’d like to propose having a timeout where group owners can specify how long a message needing to be approved stays until an automatic action is taken (remove the message, do not approve, etc.).

 

Thanks.
Cheers,

Josep


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Proposal: allow group owners to set message approval timeout

 

Hi,

 

The following was observed on one of the lists I manage: an associate owner approved a message that was more than several days old and was not supposed to go to the list, causing confusion for some members.

 

Thus I’d like to propose having a timeout where group owners can specify how long a message needing to be approved stays until an automatic action is taken (remove the message, do not approve, etc.).

 

Thanks.
Cheers,

Josep


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

Thanks, Mark. I noticed that greenfizzpops wrote

"I tried:
-Approve Pending Members
-Set Member Subscription Options (also allows access to the member list) 
And also set them to receive all owner emails but that didn't allow them to see the +owner messages "tab" on the member's page."

But I've now tested this in my test group, and it works fine for me.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:53 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

So it seems that only group owners have access to the individual member pages.

A group moderator with at least one of the following permissions also has access to individual member pages:

- Approve Pending Members
- Remove Members
- Ban Members
- Set Member Subscription Options
- Set Moderator Privileges

Mark 


Re: Stopping posting of photos in the file section?

Duane
 

Since the most common extension on photos is jpg, maybe disallow that in the File area? And possibly note that they must go in the Photo area when an attempt is made?

Duane


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

So it seems that only group owners have access to the individual member pages.

Mark, I would suggest changing the wording in caveat on the member's "notes" section, which currently reads: "Notes are only viewable by group moderators." In fact, I might remove the caveat entirely, since only owners, not moderators, will even get to that page to read it.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

Douglas Swearingen
 

In the group I am a Co-Owner of, we got around whether a moderator can see owner messages by making the 3 or us all Co-Owners.

Doug


On Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:38 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:


p.s. It's odd. I just did a test in my test group by making a test member into a moderator. That member can see the members list, but can't click on any member's page and see it. The member pages are not clickable. The member's individual page is where the owner messages from the member are listed.
I wonder if this is a bug. My understanding, especially because of the notation under the "notes" section on a member's page that moderators can see those notes, is that all mods have access to each individual member page. That seems not to be the case now.
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J
Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.
I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

p.s. It's odd. I just did a test in my test group by making a test member into a moderator. That member can see the members list, but can't click on any member's page and see it. The member pages are not clickable. The member's individual page is where the owner messages from the member are listed.

I wonder if this is a bug. My understanding, especially because of the notation under the "notes" section on a member's page that moderators can see those notes, is that all mods have access to each individual member page. That seems not to be the case now.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


Stopping posting of photos in the file section?

LeeAnne
 

Hello Mark and all

Is there any way to stop members from uploading photos to the file sections? 

I spend way too much time sending members to the wiki for instructions (which of course they either can't understand or don't read before uploading) or looking for and deleting photos from the files. The photos take up huge amounts of data and of course are very difficult to view when not in an album. 


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-LeeAnne

ECIR Archivist


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:34 pm, Green Fizzpops wrote:
The issue is what they can see on the groups.io website.

Oh, ok. I don't know the answer to that. 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

Green Fizzpops
 

Yes, but that isn't the issue.

The issue is what they can see on the groups.io website.


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

p.s. It's under "owner email," down towards the bottom of the moderator's member page.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

 

You can specify whether they get all owner messages, or owner messages just from subscribers (this includes pending members), or no owner messages.

J

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On Mar 9, 2017, at 10:12 AM, ro-esp <ro-esp@dds.nl> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 12:06 pm, Green Fizzpops wrote:

I searched for this but couldn't find anything relating.
As far as I know, anyone you appoint "moderator" will receive the groupname+owner@groups.io messages, even if you don't give them ANY "moderator privileges".

I know for sure that's how it works in yahoogroups, and I don't remember any discussion about it being different in groups.io

groetjes, Ronaldo




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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Google Drive Integration

 

Hi Ricky,

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 5:48 AM, Ricky-KF5WVJ via Groups.Io <slikriktn1@...> wrote:

How often does the groups.io upload attachments to google drive? the reason i ask is,when i first set it up and posted a topic with an attachment and it up loaded immediately to google drive, since then i have posted a couple more topics with attachments and they still have not been uploaded to google drive. this happened the other day when i was testing google drive integration for our group.

The attachments should be uploaded immediately when the message is sent. There were errors (from Google) when you recently tested it, and I've been trying to track them down, but unfortunately haven't had any luck so far. Off list, can you give me some more information: when did the integration last work for you? Did you make any changes to your Google account since then?

You should be able to fix it by logging out of the Google drive integration and then set it up again. But I need to find out why the integration 'went bad'.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: moderator permissions for seeing +owner messages?

ro-esp
 

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 12:06 pm, Green Fizzpops wrote:

I searched for this but couldn't find anything relating.
As far as I know, anyone you appoint "moderator" will receive the groupname+owner@groups.io messages, even if you don't give them ANY "moderator privileges".

I know for sure that's how it works in yahoogroups, and I don't remember any discussion about it being different in groups.io

groetjes, Ronaldo


moderated Google Drive Integration

Ricky-KF5WVJ
 

How often does the groups.io upload attachments to google drive? the reason i ask is,when i first set it up and posted a topic with an attachment and it up loaded immediately to google drive, since then i have posted a couple more topics with attachments and they still have not been uploaded to google drive. this happened the other day when i was testing google drive integration for our group.

thanks,

ricky kf5wvj


moderated Re: Calendars

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Ricky-KF5WVJ via Groups.Io <slikriktn1@...> wrote:

While we are on the calendar subject..we are in the process of moving from the other place(yahoogroups)and I've been asked by several members if there was a way or could a function be added to calendars like an event tab or button that would parse the calendar and give a list of events for the month in list form?

The newer versions of the calendar code that we use now has a month list view. I was able to upgrade and add that view pretty quickly.

Cheers,
Mark 

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