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moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

 

And now, it is back. On all my groups.
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moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

 

This is no laughing matter any more. My signature is also gone today, on ALL my groups!

J (sig by hand)


moderated change the term "default" to "active" for automatic notices #suggestion

 

I have just created a "pending subscription"-type notice, to use as a second notice when a pending member has not responded to the first notice. But there is no way, short of changing the second notice to be the default (and then changing it back), to send only the one individual member the second notice by using the action "resent pending subscription notice" because it is an automatic notice and the default is always sent. 

I'm wondering in general about the term "default" for automatic notices. These are not just the "default." They are the ACTIVE notice. "Default" implies that you can switch, in the case of one individual situation, and choose to send a non-default messages. But you can't, because the notice is automatic. All you can do is change the chosen message to default, which makes it go out from then on in all cases, and then change the default back to the original. 

Since all of the notices are automatic (? not sure how you would classify "invite", but at least pending, rejected, good-bye, banned.), I think the term "active" is more accurate (and less confusing) than "default" for ALL notices.

A slight improvement might be, in certain cases where you choose an action for a member (e.g., resend pending member notice, remove, ban), to allow an actual choice of which notice to send out. In that case, the word "default" makes some sense. But this might overcomplicate things. Failing an actual choice, I'd ditch the term "default."

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moderated Updates to Trello

beta@groups.io Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "Notices are not sent when an all-day calendar event happens." by Mark Fletcher:

This was actually never a bug, and the code does in fact handle it correctly.


[Beta] The card "Notices are not sent when an all-day calendar event happens." was archived.


[Beta] New card "Search by email address in activities is broken." was added to list "Bugs".


[Beta] The red label "Bug" was added to the card "Search by email address in activities is broken.".


[Beta] The description of card "Search by email address in activities is broken." was changed to:

Searching on an email address does not work. Searching on a name does work.


moderated Re: How on earth does Groups.io thread a topic?

 

J,

The keyword being "usually." I remember the contortions that even you
(Shal) and Mark (offlist, through support) went through in trying to
make the threading happen correctly in several cases in my group.
I don't recall at the moment.

At some point prior to the message I cited Mark had added the "one-week" rule for messages without either form of citation field (In-Reply-To or References). I think that was to work-around various email clients, especially mobile clients, which fail to use or provide those either of those header fields.

Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Douglas Swearingen
 

Welcome back Mark.

Thank You for all your hard work and making Groups.io what it is today.

Doug


On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:41 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...> wrote:


Mark welcome back and well done for making Groups.io as stable a service as it can possibly be, as noted during the holiday season. I don't think the same could be said for other public groups, free or paid. Well done again and keep it up for 2017.
> On 4 Jan 2017, at 17:11, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm back. I hope you all had a good holiday season. On Monday the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues, which should not have been noticeable. But other than that, there were no real issues over the holidays with the service. Yesterday was our busiest day ever. Both web traffic and email traffic were up ~10% over our previous best day.
>
> It's going to take me a few days to work through the backlog of support and beta@ emails.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>






moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Mark welcome back and well done for making Groups.io as stable a service as it can possibly be, as noted during the holiday season. I don't think the same could be said for other public groups, free or paid. Well done again and keep it up for 2017.

On 4 Jan 2017, at 17:11, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm back. I hope you all had a good holiday season. On Monday the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues, which should not have been noticeable. But other than that, there were no real issues over the holidays with the service. Yesterday was our busiest day ever. Both web traffic and email traffic were up ~10% over our previous best day.

It's going to take me a few days to work through the backlog of support and beta@ emails.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: How on earth does Groups.io thread a topic?

 

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:42 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
This usually tells the tale.

The keyword being "usually." I remember the contortions that even you (Shal) and Mark (offlist, through support) went through in trying to make the threading happen correctly in several cases in my group. Some cases, at least at that point, were very intractable. 
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moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Anita L
 

Mark welcome back. I have found things going well for my group. Only thing are the duplicate photos in the email folder. Not sure that can be resolved.
 
Anita 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 1/4/2017 1:35:56 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Happy New Year!
 
Hi Mark, welcome back. And yes email traffic has been very slow so the reboot of the system was not really noticeable. In my personal opinion.
On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm back. I hope you all had a good holiday season. On Monday the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues, which should not have been noticeable. But other than that, there were no real issues over the holidays with the service. Yesterday was our busiest day ever. Both web traffic and email traffic were up ~10% over our previous best day.

It's going to take me a few days to work through the backlog of support and beta@ emails. 

Thanks,
Mark

 


moderated Re: Happy New Year!

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi Mark, welcome back. And yes email traffic has been very slow so the reboot of the system was not really noticeable. In my personal opinion.

On Jan 4, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm back. I hope you all had a good holiday season. On Monday the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues, which should not have been noticeable. But other than that, there were no real issues over the holidays with the service. Yesterday was our busiest day ever. Both web traffic and email traffic were up ~10% over our previous best day.

It's going to take me a few days to work through the backlog of support and beta@ emails. 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Happy New Year!

 

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 09:11 am, Mark Fletcher wrote:
the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues,

Obviously a hangover. :)

Welcome back and Happy New Year! 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Happy New Year!

 

Hi All,

I'm back. I hope you all had a good holiday season. On Monday the main groups.io web server rebooted a couple of times because of memory issues, which should not have been noticeable. But other than that, there were no real issues over the holidays with the service. Yesterday was our busiest day ever. Both web traffic and email traffic were up ~10% over our previous best day.

It's going to take me a few days to work through the backlog of support and beta@ emails. 

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: How on earth does Groups.io thread a topic?

toki
 

On 01/03/2017 10:42 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I ask this because I'm exasperated and I just can't figure out how certain topic splits are occurring.
Look at the email client that is being used.

Most of the major email clients manage to break the RFCs so badly, they
shouldn't be called email clients, but rather
user-hostile-anti--communication-software-specifically-designed
to-ensure-that-communication-is-impossible-clients.



jonathon


moderated Re: How on earth does Groups.io thread a topic?

 

Brian,

I ask this because I'm exasperated and I just can't figure out how
certain topic splits are occurring.
It depends on more than just the Subject. Here's the implementation:
https://groups.io/g/beta/message/5772

All participants are, to my knowledge, using e-mail to interact with
the group. The fact that titles of the topics are precisely the same
makes it utterly mystifying to me why they would ever not have all
been assigned to a single topic/thread, particularly when they all
come in on the same day.
The inference is that the later messages had a In-Reply-To (or References) header that cited a message other than one that matched the subject.

This can happen if members are in the habit of clicking Reply on an arbitrary message from the group, then replacing the Subject to match a thread in the group.

As a mod of the group (or a member receiving individual messages) one can use View Source to examine the Subject and any In-Reply-To or References fields in detail. This usually tells the tale.

Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

 

Bwahahahaha!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Ro <recarlton@...> wrote:

I dont think we should be discussing sexual stuff here.  


Ro

with Silk with a double hymen and proud of it, and Sally, Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.





From: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 8:02 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups
 

Ro,

        The following is a serious question:  where is your "double hyphen" line?

        I can't see it even when I select your text.  I am guessing you delete it manually, but I've never had a time where my signature was included that the double hyphen followed by a space is not on the line immediately above it.

Brian, whose sig is still MIA


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

Ro
 

I dont think we should be discussing sexual stuff here.  


Ro

with Silk with a double hymen and proud of it, and Sally, Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.





From: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 8:02 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups
 

Ro,

        The following is a serious question:  where is your "double hyphen" line?

        I can't see it even when I select your text.  I am guessing you delete it manually, but I've never had a time where my signature was included that the double hyphen followed by a space is not on the line immediately above it.

Brian, whose sig is still MIA


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

 

oops, that didn't like like it should have:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb8t3Lt8iJw

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

 

OMG, right. Where are the HYPHENS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb8t3Lt8iJw
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Ro,

        The following is a serious question:  where is your "double hyphen" line?

        I can't see it even when I select your text.  I am guessing you delete it manually, but I've never had a time where my signature was included that the double hyphen followed by a space is not on the line immediately above it.

Brian, whose sig is still MIA


moderated Re: Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups

Ro
 

Whew!  all is well in Ro's sig


Ro
"He who focuses on himself has muddy clarity"

with Silk gazing over the fence, and Sally, Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond.





From: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io> on behalf of Ro <recarlton@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:51 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups
 

Weird is as weird does


RobiWanCatKnobi


with Silk happy with the sig line, and Sally, Handy, Feliz &  Police Kitty patrolling in the Great Beyond and putting graffiti on the pearly gates.





From: beta@groups.io <beta@groups.io> on behalf of J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:46 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Signatures for Web Posting suddenly not working on multiple groups
 
My signature is appearing here. Weird.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. Especially the fishy ones.

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu

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