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moderated Re: Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 09:54 am, atinalee@... wrote:
Sincerely sounds very formal.

It's a rejection message.  Formal is what is needed. 
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Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Re: Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

Anita L
 

I liked cheers. Sincerely sounds very formal. Never bothered me what you sign as.
 
Anita 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/11/2016 12:26:44 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message
 
I just changed Cheers to Sincerely. 

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:17 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
You're not the only one. ;-)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

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moderated Re: Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Thanks.

Just FYI this thread got duplicated because when I tried to post, twice, I got a 504 message.  When I went back to the messages list it was there, twice, and I deleted one of them.   I have never gotten a 504 before and certainly wouldn't have expected the message to have posted when I got one.
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Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Re: Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

 

I just changed Cheers to Sincerely. 

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 9:17 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
You're not the only one. ;-)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

 

You're not the only one. ;-)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I just received one of these (which, BTW, I expected to) which is shown below:

Hello,

A message you sent to the group blindtech@groups.io was not approved by the moderators.

The message is attached.

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team

Am I the only one who thinks that the complementary closing of, "Cheers," is really grossly inappropriate here?  "Thank You," "Sincerely," "Regards," or just plain nothing would be far more appropriate than "Cheers," which comes across as awfully snarky, in my opinion. 

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Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Canned (or I suspect canned) "Message Not Approved" Message

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I just received one of these (which, BTW, I expected to) which is shown below:

Hello,

A message you sent to the group blindtech@groups.io was not approved by the moderators.

The message is attached.

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team

Am I the only one who thinks that the complementary closing of, "Cheers," is really grossly inappropriate here?  "Thank You," "Sincerely," "Regards," or just plain nothing would be far more appropriate than "Cheers," which comes across as awfully snarky, in my opinion. 

--
Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Re: Something's up with Signatures

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Interesting.  It looks like the "presto-change-o" trick is occurring on this signature, too, but it doesn't show up until after I leave the thread and return to it again.

I thought several pictures would be worth a thousand words, so:


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Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Something's up with Signatures

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

And, of course, I couldn't replicate it here.  This one's probably too long.

I updated my signatures on the other groups I'm on and most, if not all, of them change font size spontaneously near the end of the line.  When I checked one it looked perfectly normal, but I selected the whole thing then reduced and enlarged the font size again.  That fixed it.  However, I didn't want to tweak the others because they're still displaying that way and I can't figure out why.  What I'm seeing in my Subscription page is definitely not what I'm getting when it goes to the group in a number of cases.

Any theories?
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Brian

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year-old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged.  One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.   ~  John Rogers


moderated Re: relationship between "close chat" and "lock topic"

 

Ok. Further thought: I think since there is already some relationship between the notification thread and the chat itself via the "View/Join This Chat" link in the message, there needs to be a bit more coordination. Specifically:

After a chat has been closed, clicking on that link takes the user to the open chat list. I think it should instead (or in addition) respond that the clicked-on chat has been closed.

Taking this a step further, I think that when a chat is closed, assuming it's one that had a notification issued, a second message should be automatically added to the notification thread indicating that it has been closed. Otherwise, it will continually sucker-punch users who use the message list as their guide into clicking on the link.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: relationship between "close chat" and "lock topic"

 

Ok. I've checked it out and I think you're right. The "topic" consists of the notification message for the chat (or whatever thread ensues from it). I wonder if that could be clarified. Maybe the #chat hashtag could be changed to #chatnotification.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: relationship between "close chat" and "lock topic"

Duane
 

I'm pretty sure the chat in the topic list and the actual chat are separate. The one in the topic list is just like any other message and is sent when a chat is opened, so has the topic options. The actual chat has its own list of options.

Duane


moderated relationship between "close chat" and "lock topic"

 

I'm finally trying out the chat feature. I am confused about the classification of a chat as a "topic" and the actions that can be performed on it as a topic.

I notice that you can edit an open chat from the "open chats" list, with choices "edit chat," "close chat," and "delete chat." So far, so good. But you can also edit the chat as a topic in the messages or topics list, in which the normal edit choices for a topic appear ("moderate topic," "lock topic," etc.). Moreover, all the options to edit a chat as topic from the message or topics lists still remain after a chat is closed.

1. What do the edit-topic options do to an open chat? E.g., can you merge chats? What does "locking" a chat do (it seems to bear no relationship to closing the chat - see question 3)?

1. What do those same options do if the chat has been closed? They are still still there after a chat is closed. 

2. What does "lock topic" do to a chat? I see that the "lock" icon appears next to the chat in the message and topics lists; but the chat still appears in the open chats list and remains open for posting. Is there (or should there be) any relationship between closing a chat and locking a topic?

I have not been following discussions about the chat feature, since it is web-only and I think at least half of the members of our group are email-only. But I just tried it out, and I'm confused about what kind of object a chat is (it seems to be a kind of topic) and what can be done to it. 

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author. 

I wish I could shut up, but I can't, and I won't. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: updating user to a moderator

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Blush was logged in with the wrong account. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: beta@groups.io [mailto:beta@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:44 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] updating user to a moderator

Hi, been a wile since I have had to use the backend as things run smoothly
at groups.io "knock on wood" could some one tell me where to go to upgrade
some one to a moderator?

Login
Expand groups
Click on the group
Expand admin
Click on members name
I see:
Posting Privileges
Default group policy
Override: not moderated
Override: moderated
Override: new user moderated
Override: not allowed to post
Save

So not really what I want to do. I think I'm some how navigating to the
wrong area to make this adjustment.

Thanks.


moderated updating user to a moderator

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Hi, been a wile since I have had to use the backend as things run smoothly
at groups.io "knock on wood" could some one tell me where to go to upgrade
some one to a moderator?

Login
Expand groups
Click on the group
Expand admin
Click on members name
I see:
Posting Privileges
Default group policy
Override: not moderated
Override: moderated
Override: new user moderated
Override: not allowed to post
Save

So not really what I want to do. I think I'm some how navigating to the
wrong area to make this adjustment.

Thanks.


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Analyzed database queries and added several indexes for improved performance.
  • INTERNAL: Removed all placeholder messages from the database.
  • INTERNAL: Now using the main database for topic displays instead of the search database.
  • INTERNAL: Now using the main database for message views instead of the search database.
  • CHANGE: Email unsub link takes you to a page with new option, 'Special Notices Only'. Also added that option when unsubscribing via the web.
  • BUGFIX: Full digests with really long links in them were not displayed nicely. We are also now a bit smarter with CSS widths in full digests.
  • INTERNAL: Change which machines are updated during deployments.
  • BUGFIX: Don't munge message-id of approved pending messages, because they've already been munged on the way in.
  • BUGFIX: Full Name sort in the Members page didn't re-sort correctly.
  • NEW: Added the Subgroups tab to the home page for enterprise groups.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed the Add Polls page for enterprise groups.
  • BUGFIX: Don't show 'Polls View' option for groups with polls disabled.
  • BUGFIX: We didn't handle messages with a multi-line Message-Id header fields correctly (which shouldn't exist in the wild, but apparently do).

Have a good weekend everybody.

Mark


moderated Updates to Trello

beta@groups.io Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "Digest Improvements" by Mark Fletcher:

Completed awhile back.


[Beta] The card "Digest Improvements" was archived.


[Beta] New card "Improved set of icons for attachments." was added to list "Messages and Archives".


[Beta] The blue label "Messages & Archives" was added to the card "Improved set of icons for attachments.".


[Beta] The description of card "Improved set of icons for attachments." was changed to:

Does anyone know why attached PDF files get an icon that boldly declares them to be PDFs while Microsoft Word documents get a generic file icon with a question mark in the center? It seems odd to me that any of the MS-Office file extensions are not recognized and given an icon that visually identifies it with something like, "Word", "Excel", "Access", etc.


[Beta] New comment on card "Improved set of icons for attachments." by Mark Fletcher:

See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4212861/what-is-a-correct-mime-type-for-docx-pptx-etc for relevant content types.


[Beta] New comment on card "Improved set of icons for attachments." by Mark Fletcher:

Icons to use: file-word-o, file-excel-o


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:05 pm, Mark Fletcher wrote:
our first Enterprise customer

CONGRATULATIONS!!! 


Thanks! (just getting to this now, been heads down on stuff).

Mark 


moderated Re: "Mute this Thread" on Web Interface?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

P.S.  The user in question uses the settings combo I described above.  He just wants a "quick and dirty" way to fly through the messages he's actually following via the web interface to mute them because he finds it easier and quicker than opening individual e-mails and activating links.  (I should add that this user is a screen reader user, so nothing is "point and click" like it is for those of us with sight.)
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray


moderated Re: "Mute this Thread" on Web Interface?

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Shal,

           Thanks.  I figured this out when I was trying to describe how to accomplish the setup where you see only the first message in any topic and followed topics via the web, and put it all together with the "Advanced Preferences" settings under the Subscription tab/pane.

           With the "following only and "first message" selections it only makes sense that first messages have only a follow link, which if not pressed means they are, effectively, muted by default and for those that one chose to follow, but changed one's mind, a "Mute this topic" would be the only link.

            I just don't deal with e-mail often at all, and the disappearance of the web based controls (which were what were asked about) threw me for a loop when I didn't find them under the "More" button.  I really don't know how anyone manages to stay sane if they're trying to use "both interfaces at once."  My head would begin to spin if I didn't stick with one or the other, at least at a group level.
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Brian

A lot of what appears to be progress is just so much technological rococo.  ~ Bill Gray

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