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locked Re: Replying to messages

Judy F.
 

Thanks so much Mark.  I’m sure your list is getting longer and longer. 

 

 

Judy F.

SW Florida - USA

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:04 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Replying to messages

 

(Reply to several messages in this thread)

 

Several good ideas, I've updated the 'Messages and Archives' todo list with:

 

CC/BCC in Group Post

Reply directly to the sender

Link in message footer to 'Reply on the web'

Quote the original message in a reply

When clicking on reply, possibly scroll up slightly to expose the reply box

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, CatWoman <diana@...> wrote:

On 1/22/2015 10:39 PM, J. Faulkner wrote:

It allows me to reply at the top so when someone reads my reply, they
see it first and don’t have to hunt for it further down in the message.


If you are talking about a message - and "top posting" - I disagree.

I know that is the "new way" - most mail clients have the default as
top posting, but my problem with that is that in order to find out
what the person is replying to - I have to go search the message.

If you put just the specific thing you are responding to on top,
then you read that first, and then the response, as you see here.

It's a more natural way to read than response first.

dg



 


locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

 

JohnF,

I'd like to echo what others have said that anyone wanting to move a
group needs to have that trusted owner make a group announcement. If
I just received that groups.io transfer announcement out of the blue,
I would assume it was a spam/scam.
I think that need is served in (2) of Step 2, when the Yahoo Group owner (moderator) must send an email to Groups.io saying "I'm ready to start". Part of being ready would be to have alerted the membership.

So perhaps in the email sent to OLDGROUP-owner@yahoogroups.com, either before or after item 1, there should be a reminder to be kind to the members by giving them a heads up.

-- Shal


locked Re: Cover photo

Cacky B
 

I like it.  I'm going to have to re-do some parts of mine, but I prefer the overall effect that you've accomplished.
Cacky

On 1/23/2015 6:37 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
All,

I've made a couple changes to the Group Home page. I moved the text (group title and address) out of the image, below it. 

More importantly, I changed how the cover image was being scaled. I think this is better and will be easier for people to deal with. It doesn't rely on a specific image size; it dynamically resizes and does not crop.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark




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locked Re: Moderation issues & is it a bug? #bug

Cacky B
 

I had the same problem.  Click on the member's name or the email address.
Cacky

On 1/23/2015 5:47 PM, Knytt Wytch wrote:
Mark,I may be daft but I can't see how to make a member a moderator


On 23 January 2015 at 23:46, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Last night I used the new button for approve post and unmoderate member in MMSanctuary. However, when I went to the member's details, they were still on moderation and I had to manually unmoderate the member.

Is this a bug or was it just not working yet?

 It's definitely working. I think I see the instance where you tried to use it. For some reason it didn't think the subscriber was on modified status. I've added more logging and will track it..

Also, is it possible to separate the two moderator privileges "Modify Group Settings" & "Delete Group?"

Added to the todo list.

Thanks,
Mark 





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locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

 

I'd like to echo what others have said that anyone wanting to move a group needs to have that trusted owner make a group announcement.  If I just received that groups.io transfer announcement out of the blue, I would assume it was a spam/scam.

I'm not sure how you're downloading the member list, but when I look at it (as a non-moderator) and View Source, I can see owners tagged with a "yg-sprite tip owner-img" class you could use, if you do it that way.

I always like to think of what sorts of evil things that troublemakers could do, and in this case, it would be signing in as other members of the group and registering passwords for them before the actual group members got a chance.  So for group migrations, you would definitely have to send out a verification mail when someone wants to set up a password.  (Maybe you do this already.  I've forgotten.)

JohnF



locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

 

Mark, would it be good to perhaps have the last line say "If you have any questions, please contact support@groups.io or the group owner (insert owner's name) at [GROUPNAME]+owner@groups.io ." ?? That way, members would be able to contact a person they knew. This is mostly just an idea I thought I'd bounce out. -- Dano


locked Re: Cover photo

 

I think it's good to get the writing off the group image, as that only works well with certain images.  However, I think there should be an option for no scaling at all.  As an example, we had a family group on Yahoo, and when something major happened to a certain family member, we would change the group image to be one of that person.  Stretching or squashing that image would just ruin it, and it's too much work to photo edit everything we'd want to put up.

JohnF



locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

 

I prefer "Messages" to "Archives" as well.  Archives comes from the listserv practice where it's assumed everyone gets mail, and no one has to look at old messages unless they're really wanting to look at OLD messages.  Messages is better when there may be some people who don't get mail and just want to read on the web.

JohnF



locked Re: Cover photo

 

Excellent, Mark!! That is MUCH better and gave us back the sharpness of the image. Also thank you for moving the title line. - Dano


locked Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site the last two days:

- Updates to the newoubpage mockup
- First draft of the Yahoo Groups transfer instructions
- Changed how the group cover photo is scaled, and moved the group name/title out of the photo
- Fixed the issue where clicking 'Reply' jumped the page to the top
- Internal changes to decrease the time it takes to deploy a software release
- Updated some 3rd party packages to latest versions

Have a good weekend!

Mark


locked Re: Cover photo

RS
 

Hi Mark,

It does show the whole image now, which is nice.  It tends to leave a good deal of white space on either side (on my screen anyway) in most cases of images I've tried out so far.  I notice that groups with the default elephant picture have almost the whole page taken up, and the image spreads across the width of the page, but I wasn't able to replicate that with any images I tried.  I'd be content with any of the non-full width images I tried out, except for the white space that remained on the sides.  Would there be a way to allow the mod to set the image to be left justified instead of centered?  

Mostly, I like the functionality of the change, as the images I uploaded weren't cropped anymore, and only a few went smooshy on me.  Just wondering how to best work with the new parameters to create the look I'd prefer.

I also noted that the cover picture doesn't preview the new image.  It would be nice if it could, as I found myself bouncing to the home screen and back as I tried images out.  Minor stuff.

Thanks!

-Tyger



locked Re: Replying to messages

 

Judy,

Maybe you are saying what I am hoping for and terminology is
getting in the way. I want to be able to include the last reply to
the original message.
I think it is terminology. I didn't intend to refer to the message that happened to start the thread (a different context for "original", forget I used that word).

As you scroll down the thread on Groups.io, note that each message in the thread has its own Reply link. It is the text of the one you click on that I think will be copied in as a quote in the Reply edit box that opens up below that message.

-- Shal


locked Re: Replying to messages

Judy F.
 

Dianna, you might want to read all of my messages on this subject. I didn't say to code it so that's what happens. I said to give us capability to reply at the top of that message or at the bottom.



Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: CatWoman [mailto:diana@catsandme.net]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:02 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Replying to messages

On 1/22/2015 10:39 PM, J. Faulkner wrote:
It allows me to reply at the top so when someone reads my reply, they
see it first and don’t have to hunt for it further down in the message.
If you are talking about a message - and "top posting" - I disagree.

I know that is the "new way" - most mail clients have the default as top posting, but my problem with that is that in order to find out what the person is replying to - I have to go search the message.

If you put just the specific thing you are responding to on top, then you read that first, and then the response, as you see here.

It's a more natural way to read than response first.

dg


locked Re: Replying to messages

Judy F.
 

Thanks Shal. Maybe you are saying what I am hoping for and terminology is
getting in the way. I want to be able to include the last reply to the
original message. Example: A message is sent asking a question and there
are 3 replies (questions & answers) to that original message. Then I reply
from the group. I want to be able to keep the last reply only to my reply.
Since everyone doesn't do this, I don't want this to be something the
'group' does, but I would like for it to show all of the info and I can then
delete the portion I don't want.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Shal Farley [mailto:shal@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 3:18 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: RE: [beta] Replying to messages

Judy,

Mark, will replying in the reply box allow that reply to show at the
top of the message or do you at least have an option?
Mark mentioned copying the original message's text into the reply as quoted
text. But I don't see that on the published todo list.
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/beta/message/384

-- Shal


locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

 

On 1/23/2015 10:55 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Should we change the name Archives to Messages?
Yes, please.

dg


locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

RS
 

I'd agree as well. 



locked Re: Cover photo

 

Mark,
          I’m definitely liking that; mind you, anything that isn’t that appalling Yahell Neo letterbox slot has to be an improvement!
 
Regards,
Robert.
 

Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 12:37 AM
Subject: [beta] Cover photo
 
All,
 
I've made a couple changes to the Group Home page. I moved the text (group title and address) out of the image, below it.
 
More importantly, I changed how the cover image was being scaled. I think this is better and will be easier for people to deal with. It doesn't rely on a specific image size; it dynamically resizes and does not crop.
 
Please let me know what you think.
 
Thanks,
Mark


locked Cover photo

 

All,

I've made a couple changes to the Group Home page. I moved the text (group title and address) out of the image, below it. 

More importantly, I changed how the cover image was being scaled. I think this is better and will be easier for people to deal with. It doesn't rely on a specific image size; it dynamically resizes and does not crop.

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

The symbol GROUPNAME is used as a placeholder for both the name of the Yahoo Group and the name of the Groups.io group. Admittedly in different contexts, but since the names might well be different perhaps distinct symbols would be helpful. In particular symbols that imply the service might be best.

I just changed it to OLDGROUP and NEWGROUP.  Suggestions for something better appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Could the final email to GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io possibly contain a list of those that were moderators or co-owners of the Yahoo group?  Might make it easier for them to add privileges if those folks aren't already on Groups.

Unfortunately, the member list that I can download does not include a list of who's a moderator/owner.

Mark