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locked Re: Moderation issues & is it a bug? #bug

Hilary Syddall
 

Mark,I may be daft but I can't see how to make a member a moderator


On 23 January 2015 at 23:46, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Last night I used the new button for approve post and unmoderate member in MMSanctuary. However, when I went to the member's details, they were still on moderation and I had to manually unmoderate the member.

Is this a bug or was it just not working yet?

 It's definitely working. I think I see the instance where you tried to use it. For some reason it didn't think the subscriber was on modified status. I've added more logging and will track it.

Also, is it possible to separate the two moderator privileges "Modify Group Settings" & "Delete Group?"

Added to the todo list.

Thanks,
Mark 
locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Duane
 

Step 2 #2 I'd suggest that everyone use the same format so it would be easier for you to process things. Have two lines at the top reading:
yg=yahoogroupname
io=groupsiogroupname
or whatever would make it easiest. You could make it at least semi-automatic after just a quick check for consistency.

Step 3 I think the email should say something like "You have been subscribed to the new group using your Yahoo account settings." instead of "Your subscription has been transfered to the new group." Otherwise, folks might think their account on Yahoo is no longer active. There may be some owners that would want to run parallel for awhile, as long as they understand there will really be two groups, one on each service.

Could the final email to GROUPNAME+owner@groups.io possibly contain a list of those that were moderators or co-owners of the Yahoo group? Might make it easier for them to add privileges if those folks aren't already on Groups.

The group owners on Yahoo would need to tell folks what's going to happen and when, so there won't be too many surprises. I'd hope that they'd already have their files, photos, whatever copied over and mostly be ready to run.

Duane
locked Re: Moderation issues & is it a bug? #bug

Mark Fletcher
 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

Last night I used the new button for approve post and unmoderate member in MMSanctuary. However, when I went to the member's details, they were still on moderation and I had to manually unmoderate the member.

Is this a bug or was it just not working yet?

 It's definitely working. I think I see the instance where you tried to use it. For some reason it didn't think the subscriber was on modified status. I've added more logging and will track it.

Also, is it possible to separate the two moderator privileges "Modify Group Settings" & "Delete Group?"

Added to the todo list.

Thanks,
Mark 
locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Shal Farley
 

Mark,

Please let me know what you think. Are the instructions clear? Am I
missing anything?
The symbol GROUPNAME is used as a placeholder for both the name of the Yahoo Group and the name of the Groups.io group. Admittedly in different contexts, but since the names might well be different perhaps distinct symbols would be helpful. In particular symbols that imply the service might be best.

-- Shal
locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Linda
 

Hi Mark,
https://groups.io/static/transfer
This is beautifully done - perfect!

I think it would be important for the group owner to know the timing of the transfer. A Special Notice would have to go out to the members to prepare them to expect the Groups.io email. Otherwise they might assume it's spam or phishing.

Thanks!
Linda
locked Re: New Subscription Options

Linda
 

Hi Mark,
https://groups.io/static/newsubpage
So much simpler ~ *way* better!

For clarity, I'd suggest changing
Advanced Options to
Advanced Preferences (Optional)

Someone suggested that folks choosing No Mail should have to provide a verified email address so they can be reachable by an owner (Special Notices). In that case No Email except Special Notices would be great wording. Eliminates concerns about privacy at work.

Thanks!
Linda
locked Moderation issues & is it a bug? #bug

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark,

Last night I used the new button for approve post and unmoderate member in MMSanctuary. However, when I went to the member's details, they were still on moderation and I had to manually unmoderate the member.

Is this a bug or was it just not working yet?

Also, is it possible to separate the two moderator privileges "Modify Group Settings" & "Delete Group?"

I would feel more comfortable if only the owner(s) could delete the group, but I was trying to give someone the ability to modify group settings.

Thanks

Brenda
locked Re: [owlperch] To Duane, Matthew, Shal & Tyger

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark wrote:>>What happened in this case is that Shal replied to an email in a different group. Therefore, his message had in the references a message-id that the group owlperch had never seen. We assumed we were seeing an out of order reply, and added a placeholder for the message we hadn't seen (and will never see, since it's from another group).<<

Can you explain to me, how Shal was able to reply to my message in a different group when my message was not in the Beta group? My original post was not in Beta, so how was he able to reply to it from Beta....

Still confused....

Brenda
locked POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

Linda
 

YES please. Thank you, Mark!
Linda
locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

Nightowl >8#
 

I think so. I think that would alleviate a lot of confusion. I also think of archives as older messages not current threads being posted in.


So I vote Yes.


Brenda
locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Frances
 

Hi

I think it looks good!

Frances

On Jan 23 15, at 5:48 PM, Cacky B <cackyb@...> wrote:

This looks good to me. I'm anxious to read what others like or dislike about it.
Cacky

On 1/23/2015 3:58 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
All,

I've just put up a draft of the instructions for how the easy Yahoo Groups transfer will go:


Please let me know what you think. Are the instructions clear? Am I missing anything?

Thanks,
Mark



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locked Re: [owlperch] To Duane, Matthew, Shal & Tyger

Nightowl >8#
 

Mark wrote:>>More info than you wanted to know.....<<

Not ever. I like lots of info. :)

Just tell me how to prevent it from happening again? Was it something I did wrong? If so, please help me prevent it from happening again.

And why did it jump me out of my group into Beta when I replied? After I sent the reply, I was no longer in my tab, I was in Beta's tab.

Thanks,
Brenda
locked Re: Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Cacky B
 

This looks good to me. I'm anxious to read what others like or dislike about it.
Cacky

On 1/23/2015 3:58 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
All,

I've just put up a draft of the instructions for how the easy Yahoo Groups transfer will go:


Please let me know what you think. Are the instructions clear? Am I missing anything?

Thanks,
Mark



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locked Re: Bugs or Suggestions? #bug #suggestion

Mark Fletcher
 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote:

When replying to a message on the website, after replying, I'm switched to the last post in the Archive, not the message I just replied to.

I've added this to the todo list.
 

Subject Lines:

I thought it was stated that we could edit Subject lines, but I haven't been able to. My husband JohnF  thinks it is only editable by the creator of the original first post of the thread? Is that true? If so, how would I say, edit or add a hashtag to that thread? Should I copy the post into another reply box and change the subject/hashtag there?

When viewing a thread, at the top right is a 'Edit Thread' button that will let you edit the subject line/change options.
 

And default Message View:

I might be wrong, but didn't you say that if we went into a default message view, that it would be remembered and stay in that order during our session? Mine isn't. Or is that something you haven't implemented yet?

Not yet implemented.

Thanks,
Mark 
locked Easy yahoo group transfer instructions

Mark Fletcher
 

All,

I've just put up a draft of the instructions for how the easy Yahoo Groups transfer will go:


Please let me know what you think. Are the instructions clear? Am I missing anything?

Thanks,
Mark
locked Re: New Subscription Options

Shal Farley
 

Mark,

So, if in Message Selection, I have All Messages checked, you think
that I should also be able to check Auto Follow Replies. The reasons
being: if I've muted a hashtag, I'll still want to see any threads
with that hashtag that I've replied in. Also, it's a way to quickly
see on the web which threads I've participated in, by just looking at
the Followed Threads tab. Is that correct?
Correct. It also supports Brenda's use case of collecting all messages in email (as a personal archive) but using the web features (Inbox, Followed Threads) for day-to-day reading.

... and made the whole Message Selection area a collapsed advanced
options area. Let me know what you think.
I like that a lot better than having an option hiding somewhere in one's profile, or worse in the group's settings.

Another idea, rather than the Advanced Options opener, might be to insert a block of introductory text as the first element in Message Selection, above the All Messages selection. You could use it to promote the feature while simultaneously labeling it as advanced. For example:

"This is an advanced feature unique to Groups.io but modeled on web-based forums. With this option you can limit your email traffic to just the topic threads or subject #Hashtags you are interested in. Leave this set to the default, "All Messages", if you prefer standard mailing list behavior."

-- Shal
locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

Donna
 

I vote yes. Messages makes more sense. When I think of Archives, I think of something in storage, historical documents, and such.


Donna
locked Re: New Subscription Options

Mark Fletcher
 

Shal,

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

 I think the concept of distinct exclude and include modes of operation is an unnecessary conceptual complication. And I still think that "Auto Follow Replies" usefully applies also to web-only readers (and hence doesn't belong in a Message Selection option, which I claim ought to be only for email).


Trying to wrap my head around things. Let me see if I have it correct: So, if in Message Selection, I have All Messages checked, you think that I should also be able to check Auto Follow Replies. The reasons being: if I've muted a hashtag, I'll still want to see any threads with that hashtag that I've replied in. Also, it's a way to quickly see on the web which threads I've participated in, by just looking at the Followed Threads tab. Is that correct?

I've updated https://groups.io/static/newsubpage , breaking out auto follow replies into it's own thing, and made the whole Message Selection area a collapsed advanced options area. Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark
locked Re: cover photo

D R Stinson
 

Why not just let people upload images as they like, and display
them as sent, possibly with an option to have them aligned left,
centre or right (with centre as the default).
I think Jim and Shal's idea is reasonable and worth trying. I use a full width graphic that includes the group name and the current shifting size causes problems at the top and edges.

I would also like to see the option of the name overlaying the graphic be changed to transparent or not shown, since it is extraneous to my group header. Please see https://groups.io/org/groupsio/MILW to understand the situation I'm talking about.

Dano
locked Re: POLL: Change Archives to Messages?

D R Stinson
 

Should we change the name Archives to Messages?
I think is is clearer to the typical group users. - Dano
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