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locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

I'd been wishing for awhile for the ability to allow members to see a members list containing just members' profiles. I don't think a database allowing photos has anything to do with that, at least not in our case. Photos in a database would (in our case) help members post their cats' photos along with their medical summary. Whereas a "member profile list" (that's my suggestion for a name for it) would allow members to see who else is in what OTHER groups they might also be in, and indirectly give a plug to those groups. For me, those are separate functions.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

The more I think about our specific needs, the more actually, I think a database with option to add pictures would work perhaps even better.

Because a) it would be opt in b)we could define the fields of info so that it's standardized and the info is easier to look at and more useful perhaps than what people put in their profile... c)it would be subgroup specific.

As for a potential directory option that can be enabled for select groups, Yes, I agree one would need to define what would be shown, etc.

Ah! I misinterpreted what Mark was saying I guess then: his idea was that owners/mods would see the member list as we do now, but members would only see profile info & pics? something like that?

Maria



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locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

Maria
 

The more I think about our specific needs, the more actually, I think a database with option to add pictures would work perhaps even better.

Because a) it would be opt in b)we could define the fields of info so that it's standardized and the info is easier to look at and more useful perhaps than what people put in their profile... c)it would be subgroup specific.

As for a potential directory option that can be enabled for select groups, Yes, I agree one would need to define what would be shown, etc.

Ah! I misinterpreted what Mark was saying I guess then: his idea was that owners/mods would see the member list as we do now, but members would only see profile info & pics? something like that?

Maria


locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

Maria,

And also since it needs to be an "opt in" thing this would have the
added disadvantage of not allowing an opt in for this choice.
That leads me to wonder what would be shown in this list.

If it were just the members' Display Names and Photos I don't think an opt-in would be needed - that info is already placed next to their postings.

For other profile information the opt-in could be as J suggested: only if they've set a Profile Name - which made the other profile info* public (and available via the link on their name in their postings).

*Other info currently available in the "public" profile: Profile Name, Joined date, About Me, Location, Website, and list of group memberships. Of those, the Joined date and list of group memberships I'd definitely leave out of the member list, as they are about site-wide participation. But the link to the Profile page would still be there (their Display Name as link, just as it is on messages).

We keep our member list private and mods/owners need access 100% all the
time.
I don't think Mark intended to imply it wouldn't be. I understood him so say that the mods/owners would _only_ be able to see the full list as they do now - they wouldn't be able to see the proposed member version of the list.

And for a directory option in the future, I think it's Ok to have
another menu item and for this to be something that people can opt in to
and select a picture they want to use JUST for that sub-group's
directory, etc.

But again - our needs can probably be meet with some enhanced options in
the database section (for now).
I think giving the Database feature a way to tie-in with the Members list (row per subscription) but with the columns and content entirely defined per group is probably a good option for having a list that is tailored to the needs of a group or subgroup.

I view that as an alternative, and not mutually exclusive, to allowing a group to provide a simplified members list to members (no email addresses or other detailed subscription info).



Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

Mark,

Right now, there's a 'Members Visible' setting. My first thought would
be that this new member list would show up in the case where Members
Visible is set to Subscribers, and would just replace what
non-moderators/owners would see, which right now is the table view of
members. This has the advantage of not requiring a new sidebar option
and group setting. The disadvantage is that moderators/owners would
never see this view.
One way of handling that, which might be generically useful, would be to have a viewing control available to mods/owners that allows them to "See the site as" with selections "Yourself (default)", "Member", and "Public".

Thus a mod/owner could choose to see the member version of the list by setting their site view to "Member".

I'm thinking that "Member" view would give them the view they would see if their subscription Role were set to "Member" instead of mod/owner - except that they must still see the control that allows them to switch back.

I'm not sure if there's a subtle distinction in the meaning of "Public" between people logged in to Groups.io but not a member of the group in question, versus people not logged in, but that's probably a minor detail.

I'm not sure where that control belongs, probably in the top bar and maybe in the drop-menu on one's name. In any case there needs to be a visible distinction (as there was for the test version) when one has selected an alternate view-as setting.

It may also be useful to have some form of automatic reversion to "Yourself (default)" after a period of time or something sooner than just the closing of this browser window/tab. I would not remember this view setting across settings, and if possible I think I would prefer it if only controlled the one browser window/tab where the alternate view-as was selected.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

It would also show only the members who have a public profile. In our group I'd estimate that's far less than half.


On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:16 PM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

hmm. no, not ideal - my initial reaction is a not great - a bit like J.

And also since it needs to be an "opt in" thing this would have the added disadvantage of not allowing an opt in for this choice.

We keep our member list private and mods/owners need access 100% all the time.

Maybe the database idea could work for now instead if you add the option to upload a picture and people can opt to enter their email address or contact info plus other info if they like...

And for a directory option in the future, I think it's Ok to have another menu item and for this to be something that people can opt in to and select a picture they want to use JUST for that sub-group's directory, etc.

But again - our needs can probably be meet with some enhanced options in the database section (for now).

Maria



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locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

Maria
 

hmm. no, not ideal - my initial reaction is a not great - a bit like J.

And also since it needs to be an "opt in" thing this would have the added disadvantage of not allowing an opt in for this choice.

We keep our member list private and mods/owners need access 100% all the time.

Maybe the database idea could work for now instead if you add the option to upload a picture and people can opt to enter their email address or contact info plus other info if they like...

And for a directory option in the future, I think it's Ok to have another menu item and for this to be something that people can opt in to and select a picture they want to use JUST for that sub-group's directory, etc.

But again - our needs can probably be meet with some enhanced options in the database section (for now).

Maria


locked Re: Earthlink block update

Maria
 

Maybe tweeting some of these folks directly?

https://www.earthlink.com/about-us/leadership

or tweeting their main twitter page: https://twitter.com/EarthLink or their customer care: https://twitter.com/EarthLinkCares


Maria


locked Re: Earthlink block update

 

Not only that. EarthLink is spamming my group with non-subscriber message attempts from the earthlink email address of a current group member who formerly used that earthlink address for the group. He says his email has not been hacked because none of his other contacts are getting the spam. Just the group.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

Unfortunately, Earthlink is still blocking us. Several Earthlink members have called tech support to try to get them to unblock us. Support seems clueless about this, however. I've sent several messages as well. I am at a loss as for what else I can do. At this point I'm wondering if it's some sort of technical issue on their end. If anyone knows anyone at Earthlink (doubtful, I know), can you tell them to unblock IP address 66.175.222.12? We're not on any blocklists and I have no idea why they are blocking us.

Thanks,
Mark 

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locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

Abdolutely would veto this. Please, no! Don't take away the full moderator's  view of the members list! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:05 AM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

I just wanted to make this suggestion again. It would be really useful in some of our groups.

A member directory that would show in a grid/list format a member's public profile ( for those who elect to have one).

This way with one click you could see a grid/list with pictures and names from the public profile members have already set up for those in your group.


I was thinking about this recently and agree it'd be a good thing to have. Right now, there's a 'Members Visible' setting. My first thought would be that this new member list would show up in the case where Members Visible is set to Subscribers, and would just replace what non-moderators/owners would see, which right now is the table view of members. This has the advantage of not requiring a new sidebar option and group setting. The disadvantage is that moderators/owners would never see this view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

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locked Earthlink block update

 

Hi All,

Unfortunately, Earthlink is still blocking us. Several Earthlink members have called tech support to try to get them to unblock us. Support seems clueless about this, however. I've sent several messages as well. I am at a loss as for what else I can do. At this point I'm wondering if it's some sort of technical issue on their end. If anyone knows anyone at Earthlink (doubtful, I know), can you tell them to unblock IP address 66.175.222.12? We're not on any blocklists and I have no idea why they are blocking us.

Thanks,
Mark 


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Beta Integration <beta@...>
 

[Beta] New comment on card "Make accessible the results of a bounce probe." by Mark Fletcher:

Also, add more messages to the bounce tracking system, specifically direct add notification emails.


locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:05 AM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

I just wanted to make this suggestion again. It would be really useful in some of our groups.

A member directory that would show in a grid/list format a member's public profile ( for those who elect to have one).

This way with one click you could see a grid/list with pictures and names from the public profile members have already set up for those in your group.


I was thinking about this recently and agree it'd be a good thing to have. Right now, there's a 'Members Visible' setting. My first thought would be that this new member list would show up in the case where Members Visible is set to Subscribers, and would just replace what non-moderators/owners would see, which right now is the table view of members. This has the advantage of not requiring a new sidebar option and group setting. The disadvantage is that moderators/owners would never see this view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Bounce-track the You have been added message #suggestion

 

Mark,

I noticed that in a recent batch of Direct Adds that the "You have been added" notice sent to the new members does not appear to include bounce tracking. In particular, rather than an encoding such as seen in a group message, it has:

Return-Path: <noreply@groups.io>
I recommend that these messages (all notifications, actually) be bounce tracked the same as group messages.

In the case of Direct Add specifically this would give us an early read on whether the address is valid, without having to wait and see what happens when the next group message is sent.



Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: You have been added message #suggestion

Maria
 

Agree and would add that it would be great to also have in that automated message a list of the URL's for any subgroups they can request to join.

Maria


locked You have been added message #suggestion

 

Mark,

I recently added a batch of new members to my PTA group (thanks for the timely approval!). That is a primary group which has subgroups.

In the body of the notification the new members received only the primary alias was given, which I think is insufficient. For groups with subgroups the subdomain name should be shown as well. For example:

Subject: You have been added to the members@example.groups.io email group
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:40:31 -0700

Hello Shalf W Farley,

You have been added by the moderators to their Groups.io group members
...
I recommend that the group name be shown there as "members@example" for clarity and for consistency with the usage in the rest of the message.


Shal
https://groups.io/g/Group_Help
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum


locked Re: Add Ability to Add Pictures to Databases #suggestion

 

Seconded. Right now we can add links, and my group members are using that to try to post their cats' photos. But links aren't working anyway.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:23 AM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

It occurred to me that if we had the ability to add pictures to databases that we could replicate the needs mentioned in the previous post re: member directory.

And we could make it therefore totally separate from one's profile info.

If we can add pictures to a database, we can create custom directories with fields for very specific info that would be useful.

I imagine this would be useful to others too - like if there is a group about pets people could upload pics of their pet with data about age/breed etc...

Maybe this is easier at this time than the directory and separate custom profile info.. for now.

We could totally work this out with a database that allows users to upload pics.

Thanks!

Maria


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locked Add Ability to Add Pictures to Databases #suggestion

Maria
 

It occurred to me that if we had the ability to add pictures to databases that we could replicate the needs mentioned in the previous post re: member directory.

And we could make it therefore totally separate from one's profile info.

If we can add pictures to a database, we can create custom directories with fields for very specific info that would be useful.

I imagine this would be useful to others too - like if there is a group about pets people could upload pics of their pet with data about age/breed etc...

Maybe this is easier at this time than the directory and separate custom profile info.. for now.

We could totally work this out with a database that allows users to upload pics.

Thanks!

Maria


locked Re: Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

 

Seconded.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:05 AM, HR Tech via Groups.io <m.conway11@...> wrote:

I just wanted to make this suggestion again. It would be really useful in some of our groups.

A member directory that would show in a grid/list format a member's public profile ( for those who elect to have one).

This way with one click you could see a grid/list with pictures and names from the public profile members have already set up for those in your group.

It wouldn't list their email address - so it wouldn't interfere with that owner setting to keep the member list visible only to owners and mods. but would enable those who select to have a profile picture / profile to be listed in the directory of their group.

We would only use this in face to face small committee subgroups but it would be ever so useful.

Also - we'd love if the info included in one's profile could be customized for sub-groups. This way people can include relevant info that may be relevant only within that sub-group and that they may not be comfortable sharing publicly across groups.io or their larger group.

Thank you!

Maria


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locked Member Profile Directory Option for Subgroups (not member list) #suggestion

Maria
 

I just wanted to make this suggestion again. It would be really useful in some of our groups.

A member directory that would show in a grid/list format a member's public profile ( for those who elect to have one).

This way with one click you could see a grid/list with pictures and names from the public profile members have already set up for those in your group.

It wouldn't list their email address - so it wouldn't interfere with that owner setting to keep the member list visible only to owners and mods. but would enable those who select to have a profile picture / profile to be listed in the directory of their group.

We would only use this in face to face small committee subgroups but it would be ever so useful.

Also - we'd love if the info included in one's profile could be customized for sub-groups. This way people can include relevant info that may be relevant only within that sub-group and that they may not be comfortable sharing publicly across groups.io or their larger group.

Thank you!

Maria


locked Re: yellow color makes hashtag unreadable - to back to orange?

 

Mark,

It's more legible post-tweak but yes, I'd tweak just a bit more. Welcome back! :-)
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