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Email delivery #downtime - Thu, 08/06/2020 11:00pm to Fri, 08/07/2020 1:00am #downtime #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Email delivery #downtime

When: Thursday, 6 August 2020, 11:00pm to Friday, 7 August 2020, 1:00am (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

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Our hosting provider Linode is upgrading the virtualization software across its fleet of machines. As part of that, the machine our main email server is on will be upgraded. Email will not be sent during this time. The website will not be affected.

Any email sent during this time will be queued up and sent when the server is back up.

Re: File "sort order" #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 06:07 PM, Wayne Swearingen wrote:
Could there be some sort of global "toggle", if you will, that would allow the default sorting option to be set?
While a global toggle would be nice (and I believe is on the TODO list).  In the meantime, clicking on the Uploaded column on right will reverse the sort order to make it easier to get to.  Not sure why, but it has to be clicked twice to get newest first.

Duane

File "sort order" #suggestion

Wayne Swearingen
 

Would it be possible to incorporate a default sort order in the files section? 

For example, I upload our monthly newsletters in PDF form and name them: "2020_08 - Person of the Month.PDF" 
Which ends up putting the newest file on the last page, not the end of the world if your somewhat technical and know where to go looking. But the casual user tends to not venture that far from what I've heard from our club members.

Could there be some sort of global "toggle", if you will, that would allow the default sorting option to be set?


Wayne

Re: Photo Upload Notifications #bug

 

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:02 PM Ginger Iorizzo <gingeriorizzo@...> wrote:
Thanks Bruce, but I understand how both messages are sent, one to the owner and one to the group. That’s not my issue. 
The problem is that the body of the message says that XXXXXX uploaded a photo, along with a hyperlink to the photo, six times within the body of one message. And no, they are not multiple photos. It is only one photo. 

I did a quick look at your group and couldn't find any photo notifications with multiple repeats. Please send me off-list a link to the message and I'll investigate.

Thanks,
Mark 

Re: Database Map on Free Group -Not sure if this is a bug or feature #misc #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

Sorry for the delay, Mark.
Yes, dumb me.  I did create the test group as a free Premium.
Sorry. that does explain why the map.
I'm using that group as a training ground for new moderators.

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Bob Bellizzi

Re: Photo Upload Notifications #bug

Ginger Iorizzo
 

Thanks Bruce, but I understand how both messages are sent, one to the owner and one to the group. That’s not my issue. 
The problem is that the body of the message says that XXXXXX uploaded a photo, along with a hyperlink to the photo, six times within the body of one message. And no, they are not multiple photos. It is only one photo. 
Ginger


On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:48 AM, Ginger Iorizzo wrote:
When I receive a notification that a photo has been added, the same notice is repeated multiple times within the same message. ...Is this a known bug?
Ginger -- If by "multiple times" you mean twice, that's unlikely to be a bug.

It happens in the notification message I receive as the group owner and also in the notification message that is sent out to the entire group.  
The notification sent to the entire group is triggered when the uploader ticks the corresponding checkbox in the upload dialog. You can head off this notification by setting the "moderated" flag on the #file-notice hashtag.

The notification sent to you as a Moderator/Owner is controlled by your subscription settings. Click on Subscription on the left-side menu bar and update the "Moderator Notifications" block according to your preferences.

Further discussion on this topic should really be taken up in GroupManagersForum or Group_Help.

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Photo Upload Notifications #bug

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
You can head off this notification by setting the "moderated" flag on the #file-notice hashtag.
In this case, it would be the #photo-notice tag, but I've set _all_ of the #xxxx-notice tags to moderated so the group doesn't get as cluttered.

Duane

Re: Photo Upload Notifications #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:48 AM, Ginger Iorizzo wrote:
When I receive a notification that a photo has been added, the same notice is repeated multiple times within the same message. ...Is this a known bug?
Ginger -- If by "multiple times" you mean twice, that's unlikely to be a bug.

It happens in the notification message I receive as the group owner and also in the notification message that is sent out to the entire group.  
The notification sent to the entire group is triggered when the uploader ticks the corresponding checkbox in the upload dialog. You can head off this notification by setting the "moderated" flag on the #file-notice hashtag.

The notification sent to you as a Moderator/Owner is controlled by your subscription settings. Click on Subscription on the left-side menu bar and update the "Moderator Notifications" block according to your preferences.

Further discussion on this topic should really be taken up in GroupManagersForum or Group_Help.

Regards,
Bruce

Photo Upload Notifications #bug

Ginger Iorizzo
 

When I receive a notification that a photo has been added, the same notice is repeated multiple times within the same message.  It happens in the notification message I receive as the group owner and also in the notification message that is sent out to the entire group.  Is this a known bug?
Ginger

Re: Remove members #bug

 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 04:54 PM, Duane wrote:

I wouldn't object if the
Remove action took me back to the full Members page, but I'm not sure how
others would feel about that.
It probably should if it was a Select All, so there wouldn't be anything on the search results anyway. If only some of the members from the search results were removed, then it should return with the list updated, in case someone wants to remove one member, then decides to remove another member from the same search list, and so on. That's provided the search list can be updated properly after the remove, so any members just removed aren't on the list anymore.

JohnF

Re: Remove members #bug

Duane
 

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 04:00 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
When you did the first remove, of the two people, did that actually remove the members from the group?
Yes, they were actually removed, but still showed on the search results page.  Could have easily been a timing glitch.  I wouldn't object if the Remove action took me back to the full Members page, but I'm not sure how others would feel about that.

Thank you,
Duane

Re: Remove members #bug

Leeni
 

I found when I tried to remove members it took two tries to get them off of the membership list.
The first time I selected them they remained on the list.
It wasn't until I did it the 2nd time that they were removed.
I did write to support about it but just got the canned email response.
Leeni  
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 08/03/20 16:00:16
Subject: Re: [beta] Remove members #bug
 
Hi Duane,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:45 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I needed to remove a couple of members from my club group this morning.  I did a search that found both of them (and only them.)  I then clicked the 'select all' box (which checked both), went to the Actions drop down, selected Remove, and verified that I wanted to.  The page did an update, but those names were still shown (though not checked).  I checked the Activity Log to be sure that they had been removed, and they had.  I suspect it had something to do with the fact that I was using the results of a search to perform the action, but follow up didn't necessarily confirm that.  I basically did the same thing, but only chose one and it worked properly - removed from the group and not on the list.


When you did the first remove, of the two people, did that actually remove the members from the group? I'm wondering if it was a delay of the action propagating to the search cluster.

Thanks,
Mark
 

Re: Database Map on Free Group -Not sure if this is a bug or feature #misc #suggestion

 

Bob,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:07 AM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
I was experimenting with my specialists' database and
I exported it from my  Premium group as a json
I imported it into an experimental free group

When it finally completed processing it showed a map at the top.
Is this a new freebe or an accident?

Did you create the test group as a free premium group trial? That would explain it (I can't seem to duplicate it on my end).

 
I would rather have the map or list mode selectable at two levels.
The owner should be able to configure the map as optional or unavailable as part of the DB design.

This is on the TODO list.

 

And scrolling the DB in Map Mode needs the column titles to be fixed so they don't disappear.

Also on the TODO list. I tried a few things, but was unable to get it working. I need to spend more time with the Javascript to figure it out. It is not an easy or quick fix.

Thanks,
Mark 

Re: Remove members #bug

 

Hi Duane,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:45 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I needed to remove a couple of members from my club group this morning.  I did a search that found both of them (and only them.)  I then clicked the 'select all' box (which checked both), went to the Actions drop down, selected Remove, and verified that I wanted to.  The page did an update, but those names were still shown (though not checked).  I checked the Activity Log to be sure that they had been removed, and they had.  I suspect it had something to do with the fact that I was using the results of a search to perform the action, but follow up didn't necessarily confirm that.  I basically did the same thing, but only chose one and it worked properly - removed from the group and not on the list.


When you did the first remove, of the two people, did that actually remove the members from the group? I'm wondering if it was a delay of the action propagating to the search cluster.

Thanks,
Mark

Re: Add the full range of photo editing tools to the Photos albums "photo edit" #suggestion

Ken Kloeber
 

Shal

I’m suggesting only the full range of tools that are available under posting msgs (is that “post” or “message” ....I get so confused) and wiki pages. The end of my subject (or it it “Topic”?) where I specified that got clipped off.

I dint realize there was a character limit - no warning (hmmmm.... a bug?)

Sorry to burst your photoshop bubble. I’m just saying, just the minimum available elsewhere - would be nice to have cropping. Shouldn’t seem a big deal?

Remove members #bug

Duane
 

I needed to remove a couple of members from my club group this morning.  I did a search that found both of them (and only them.)  I then clicked the 'select all' box (which checked both), went to the Actions drop down, selected Remove, and verified that I wanted to.  The page did an update, but those names were still shown (though not checked).  I checked the Activity Log to be sure that they had been removed, and they had.  I suspect it had something to do with the fact that I was using the results of a search to perform the action, but follow up didn't necessarily confirm that.  I basically did the same thing, but only chose one and it worked properly - removed from the group and not on the list.

Thanks,
Duane

Database Map on Free Group -Not sure if this is a bug or feature #misc #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

I was experimenting with my specialists' database and
I exported it from my  Premium group as a json
I imported it into an experimental free group

When it finally completed processing it showed a map at the top.
Is this a new freebe or an accident?
I would rather have the map or list mode selectable at two levels.
The owner should be able to configure the map as optional or unavailable as part of the DB design.
If designed as configurable, the user should be able to select map or no map when using the DB.

Finally, I think the DB Map should be a  Premium/Enterprise feature.
And scrolling the DB in Map Mode needs the column titles to be fixed so they don't disappear.

This would make the DB is almost usable.
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Bob Bellizzi

Re: Clarification of account preference #misc

 

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 6:19 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On the Account > Preferences page, the last panel contains a box for "I always want copies of my own emails".  There's been some difference of opinion as to what this relates to and what it means.  I believe that originally it would cause the headers to be rewritten when returning a message to the person that sent it if they used Gmail (or other services known to use a Gmail derivative).  In the Members Manual, it gives the impression that this will be done for any email service if the box is checked.  Which is the correct interpretation?

It applies regardless of the email service. It replaces the Message-Id header with a new one that we generate (we rename the original Message-Id header to X-Orig-Message-Id).

Hope this helps.
Mark 

Clarification of account preference #misc

Duane
 

On the Account > Preferences page, the last panel contains a box for "I always want copies of my own emails".  There's been some difference of opinion as to what this relates to and what it means.  I believe that originally it would cause the headers to be rewritten when returning a message to the person that sent it if they used Gmail (or other services known to use a Gmail derivative).  In the Members Manual, it gives the impression that this will be done for any email service if the box is checked.  Which is the correct interpretation?

Thanks,
Duane

Re: Add the full range of photo editing tools to the Photos albums "photo edit" #suggestion

Bill Burns
 

On 02-Aug-20 1:31 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
Annotation: "...pictures with circles and arrows and [some notes] on the [front] of each one explaining what each one was, ..." would probably be my next choice over more traditional photo tools such as exposure adjustment, color adjustment, etc.
Shal
Been listening to Alice's Restaurant again, Shal?

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Bill