On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 04:34 AM, Jeremy H wrote:

it should be set that the only person who can remove 'Owner' status (or delete such an id) is that person themselves, and that nobody else should be able to remove it

Even that may not be as simple as it seems.  It has happened (on YG!) that an owner went missing, but was not removed from the group.  Some time later, someone got access to their account and created havoc with the group.  By removing that account, the other owners were able to bring things under control.

I don't believe there will be a simple and/or universal solution to this divisive situation.  It appears to me that only the group members can make the ultimate decision, which may include creating a new group.  In many cases, the loss of the message archive would be painful, but I've done it before and it wasn't a tragedy.  Any 'outsider' may not have all the facts and could make an incorrect decision.

Duane