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Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Ok. Agree to disagree. :-)


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

I still disagree, but whatever.

Cheers,
Christos


>>> On 2021-10-10 15:44, J_Catlady via groups.io wrote:

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 11:36 AM, Christos Psarras wrote:
my results point to my assertion
Yet your assertion is false. Erroneous, "over-confident," "not guaranteed to happen," whatever you want to call it. It's false.


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 11:36 AM, Christos Psarras wrote:
my results point to my assertion
Yet your assertion is false. Erroneous, "over-confident," "not guaranteed to happen," whatever you want to call it. It's false.


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

>>> I actually think it would be good to add the info about the random order, so that no one else is tempted to come to this erroneous conclusion or even wonder about the order.

The statement Nina posted in her reply was already there, I just didn't check-out that section before posting my suggestion, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.

I did plenty of testing with a couple of different accounts and ISPs and my results point to my assertion so I wouldn't call it erroneous.  Over-confident or consistently-lucky, sure, but I get it, the mailing process happens very fast and there are plenty of middle points in between to guarantee the order.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

I actually think it would be good to add the info about the random order, so that no one else is tempted to come to this erroneous conclusion or even wonder about the order.


On Oct 10, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:



Hi Nina,

Sure, I understand, no problem whatsoever.

Cheers,
Christos


On 2021-10-10 10:34, Nina E via groups.io wrote:

Thanks, Christos. I asked Mark about the order in which multiple Welcome (or Monthly Reminder) notices are sent, and whether it’s possible to control it, and he told me what I put in the Welcome notice topic and the Monthly Reminder topic, namely, “…the system sends them all at the same time (within the same second or two). Due to the vagaries of email delivery, there is no way to guarantee the order in which multiple notices are delivered.” So I’m hesitant to include the tip you suggest because it might not happen in every case.

 

- Nina

 

From: docs@beta.groups.io <docs@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christos Psarras
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 1:11 PM
To: docs@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [docs] Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Nina,

I don't know if Mark wants to include this in there as a note, but for those who have or want to use multiple welcome notices and want to control the order those are emailed out they can do so by selectively updating/saving those notices, as they are emailed oldest to newest, or same order shown onscreen if you sort on Updated ascending.

Cheers,
Christos



Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Hi Nina,

Sure, I understand, no problem whatsoever.

Cheers,
Christos


On 2021-10-10 10:34, Nina E via groups.io wrote:

Thanks, Christos. I asked Mark about the order in which multiple Welcome (or Monthly Reminder) notices are sent, and whether it’s possible to control it, and he told me what I put in the Welcome notice topic and the Monthly Reminder topic, namely, “…the system sends them all at the same time (within the same second or two). Due to the vagaries of email delivery, there is no way to guarantee the order in which multiple notices are delivered.” So I’m hesitant to include the tip you suggest because it might not happen in every case.

 

- Nina

 

From: docs@beta.groups.io <docs@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christos Psarras
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 1:11 PM
To: docs@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [docs] Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Nina,

I don't know if Mark wants to include this in there as a note, but for those who have or want to use multiple welcome notices and want to control the order those are emailed out they can do so by selectively updating/saving those notices, as they are emailed oldest to newest, or same order shown onscreen if you sort on Updated ascending.

Cheers,
Christos



Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

Nina E
 

Thanks, Christos. I asked Mark about the order in which multiple Welcome (or Monthly Reminder) notices are sent, and whether it’s possible to control it, and he told me what I put in the Welcome notice topic and the Monthly Reminder topic, namely, “…the system sends them all at the same time (within the same second or two). Due to the vagaries of email delivery, there is no way to guarantee the order in which multiple notices are delivered.” So I’m hesitant to include the tip you suggest because it might not happen in every case.

 

- Nina

 

From: docs@beta.groups.io <docs@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christos Psarras
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 1:11 PM
To: docs@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [docs] Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Nina,

I don't know if Mark wants to include this in there as a note, but for those who have or want to use multiple welcome notices and want to control the order those are emailed out they can do so by selectively updating/saving those notices, as they are emailed oldest to newest, or same order shown onscreen if you sort on Updated ascending.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Help landing page rework

Duane
 

On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 12:55 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:
I guess I should have spaced first, comma, then space again, as I did in the message edit.
To make it look/work right, for online (which is what I mostly do) I use: link space comma/period left-arrow backspace end continue.  Takes a few extra keys, but I think it looks better.  I wish it worked 'normal', but I'm just happy the site exists!  Maybe Mark can fix it one day in his copious spare time. ;>)

The change was made on 20 Sep 21, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/30348.

Duane


Re: Help landing page rework

 

On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 01:18 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Or send an edit if allowed in this subgroup (I haven't checked)
Thanks for letting me know J, turns out edits are allowed.

Well, I guess Thunderbird has spoiled me as it works a bit differently on how it links text...  I composed that message online and not thinking I pasted the link text then continued with the comma and space etc, and apparently the online editor seems to use space as the flag to end the linked text and will include the comma and whatever there is before it.  I guess I should have spaced first, comma, then space again, as I did in the message edit.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Help landing page rework

 

Christos, that's a bad link. The comma got included and it says "page not found." Might want to delete and resent. Or send an edit if allowed in this subgroup (I haven't checked)


Help landing page rework

 
Edited

I just noticed the landing page was reworked, https://groups.io/helpcenter , I don't know when that was done as I use bookmarks, but kudos, it looks very neat and efficient now!

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Nina,

I don't know if Mark wants to include this in there as a note, but for those who have or want to use multiple welcome notices and want to control the order those are emailed out they can do so by selectively updating/saving those notices, as they are emailed oldest to newest, or same order shown onscreen if you sort on Updated ascending.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

I think it was news to everyone.


Re: Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

Nina E
 

I updated the Owners Manual to mention that the Welcome notice type (and Monthly Reminder notice type, as Mark confirmed in beta) can have multiple active messages. For the record, that was news to me, too. :-) 

Thanks,
Nina


On Wed, Oct 6, 2021, 7:51 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Per Mark in beta just now:
"You can have multiple active welcome messages. "

This was something completely unknown to me, and in fact, the documentation currently states there can be only one active notice of any type at a given time. I'm querying Mark as to whether you can have multiple actives for other notice types as well, or just for the welcome. It was sure news to me.

J


Multiple active welcome messages are allowed

 

Per Mark in beta just now:
"You can have multiple active welcome messages. "

This was something completely unknown to me, and in fact, the documentation currently states there can be only one active notice of any type at a given time. I'm querying Mark as to whether you can have multiple actives for other notice types as well, or just for the welcome. It was sure news to me.

J


Re: Billing questions #suggestion

Nina E
 

The Owners Manual now contains an About Groups.io billing topic (near the end, before the Additional information topic).

- Nina


Re: Include new icon for closed polls #suggestion

Nina E
 

The Closed Poll icon is now documented in the Owners Manual and the Members Manual.

- Nina


Re: Include new icon for closed polls #suggestion

Nina E
 

Thanks, Andy. I follow the beta group and saw Mark's response, and I already made a note to myself to add it to the documentation. :-)

- Nina


On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 6:05 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Hi Nina,

Please Mark's comments re closed polls in Beta #30239. Can we include a reference in the manuals for that please.

Thanks
Andy


Include new icon for closed polls #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Nina,

Please Mark's comments re closed polls in Beta #30239. Can we include a reference in the manuals for that please.

Thanks
Andy


Re: Owners Manual #suggestion

Nina E
 

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:28 AM, Duane wrote:
Hi Nina,

Hope you're enjoying your travels.  When you get back (and have recovered ;>), I have a couple of additions that may be useful.

1.  I don't see an explanation/example of the Moderator Edited badge on the Pending Messages page.  This only shows up if a moderator edits a message and Saves without approving.  In this situation, there's also an Undo button added to the status line next to the badges.  Probably best added to the section on "Handling pending messages" of the manual.

2.  The addition of an explanation of the "User status" in the "Downloading your group’s member list" as noted in https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/30121

I had a great trip, thanks!

The Moderator Edited badge is now documented in the Owners Manual and Members Manual (under Additional information > Member badges and topic icons > Topic icons). While I was at it, I added the Claimed by badge, which I suddenly realized was not included in the list (I also added that badge to the list of member badges because it can show up for pending members).

I'll work on documenting the Undo button and the User status column in downloaded member lists for a future doc release. I didn't have time to get to those this week.

Thank you for the suggestions.

- Nina

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