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Re: direct_add support for sub-groups #api

Srikanth Hanagud
 

Hi Mark,

Thank you for the response. I tested that and it seems to work as expected.

Thanks and Regards
Sri

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:39 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hello,

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:16 AM Srikanth Hanagud <shanagud@...> wrote:
It looks like we currently have a way to direct add members to subgroups but only if the user is not already in the main group. We can use the subgroupIDs to pass the sub-groups the member should be added to.
However, we’d like to be able to direct add to subgroups after a user has been added to the main group and there is no way to do this right now. 
If we try using direct add when the member is already added to the main group, we get a direct_add_existing error.


Re: direct_add support for sub-groups #api

 

Hello,

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:16 AM Srikanth Hanagud <shanagud@...> wrote:
It looks like we currently have a way to direct add members to subgroups but only if the user is not already in the main group. We can use the subgroupIDs to pass the sub-groups the member should be added to.
However, we’d like to be able to direct add to subgroups after a user has been added to the main group and there is no way to do this right now. 
If we try using direct add when the member is already added to the main group, we get a direct_add_existing error.
_._,_._,_

You can use that API endpoint to add people to subgroups when they already are members of the main group. You'll get an error telling you that the person is a member of the main group, but you can ignore it.

Hope this helps.
Mark


direct_add support for sub-groups #api

Srikanth Hanagud
 

It looks like we currently have a way to direct add members to subgroups but only if the user is not already in the main group. We can use the subgroupIDs to pass the sub-groups the member should be added to.
However, we’d like to be able to direct add to subgroups after a user has been added to the main group and there is no way to do this right now. 
If we try using direct add when the member is already added to the main group, we get a direct_add_existing error.


Re: Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 07:55 PM, Monica wrote:
Yes, it may be we don’t need the API if these are already built in.
It sounds like your first stop should be https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual and https://groups.io/helpcenter/gettingstarted  After giving those a good going over, I'd create a group, opting for the Premium trial to test as many things as possible, then grab some 'volunteers' to help figure it out.  At some point, you'll also need to read https://groups.io/helpcenter/membersmanual to see what members can and cannot do.  Many of us create a second, non-mod/owner account to use when members have questions, so we can give them step-by-step help.

Duane


Re: Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

Monica
 

RMIT Classification: Trusted

 

Thanks a lot, Duane. It is helpful to know about the “Allow members to download archive” and “export group data” options. Yes, it may be we don’t need the API if these are already built in. (I did go first to https://groups.io/api but didn’t find what I was looking for!)

 

Cheers

Monica

 

 

From: api@beta.groups.io <api@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Duane via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2020 10:52 AM
To: api@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [api] Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 07:38 PM, Monica wrote:

If we set the group discussion to be only visible to group members, then only group members can access this content by the API?

Yes, but I don't think you really need to use the API, especially for regular members.  There's a setting within the group that you can use to "Allow Members To Download Archive."  Owners (and moderators with permission) can export everything related to the group using the "Export Group Data" button on the settings page.  There's not a setting to limit what each member has access to.

Apologies if this is a newbie question: What setting options are available in the software to enact visibility to a closed group?

You, or the person responsible for setting it up, should take a look at the documentation , https://groups.io/api

Duane


Re: Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 07:38 PM, Monica wrote:

If we set the group discussion to be only visible to group members, then only group members can access this content by the API?

Yes, but I don't think you really need to use the API, especially for regular members.  There's a setting within the group that you can use to "Allow Members To Download Archive."  Owners (and moderators with permission) can export everything related to the group using the "Export Group Data" button on the settings page.  There's not a setting to limit what each member has access to.

Apologies if this is a newbie question: What setting options are available in the software to enact visibility to a closed group?

You, or the person responsible for setting it up, should take a look at the documentation , https://groups.io/api

Duane


Re: Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

Monica
 

RMIT Classification: Trusted

 

Thanks Mark.

 

Just to confirm:

 

If we set the group discussion to be only visible to group members, then only group members can access this content by the API?

 

Apologies if this is a newbie question: What setting options are available in the software to enact visibility to a closed group? E.g. is there a setting something like ‘content access [select group members only]’

 

We are still deciding whether this platform is suitable for our group, and so haven’t been able to access what it looks like to be an admin and the associated group settings yet.

 

Thanks for your help

Monica

 

 

 

From: api@beta.groups.io <api@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2020 1:05 AM
To: api@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [api] Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

 

Hello,

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM Monica <monica.barratt@...> wrote:

 

We are looking to start a group and are checking out all the features. Having an API so we can easily download the content of the group is an excellent feature that we are excited about. However, it is important to us that only the members of the group have access to the content and to this feature.

 

Can someone confirm that the group members can use the API for the group content, rather than say anyone with a groups.io account?

 

 

Access to the API follows the same permissions structure as the website. If someone can access a feature on the website, they can access it through the API. If they can't access the feature on the website, they can't access it via the API.

 

Hope this helps.

Mark 


Re: Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

 

Hello,

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM Monica <monica.barratt@...> wrote:

 

We are looking to start a group and are checking out all the features. Having an API so we can easily download the content of the group is an excellent feature that we are excited about. However, it is important to us that only the members of the group have access to the content and to this feature.

 

Can someone confirm that the group members can use the API for the group content, rather than say anyone with a groups.io account?

 


Access to the API follows the same permissions structure as the website. If someone can access a feature on the website, they can access it through the API. If they can't access the feature on the website, they can't access it via the API.

Hope this helps.
Mark 


Planning to start a groups.io group - question about API access

Monica
 

RMIT Classification: Trusted


Hi there everyone

 

We are looking to start a group and are checking out all the features. Having an API so we can easily download the content of the group is an excellent feature that we are excited about. However, it is important to us that only the members of the group have access to the content and to this feature.

 

Can someone confirm that the group members can use the API for the group content, rather than say anyone with a groups.io account?

 

Thanks a lot

Monica

 

 

 


Re: most_recent_message is always 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z

Henning Schulzrinne
 

Even that doesn't seem quite right, as the group is quite active, i.e., the last message was definitely not sent nearly 2,020 years ago :-)

We need the per-member most-recent-posting data to determine who the active posters are. We want to force active members to configure a signature in their groups.io profile since we require that all messages on our community board (about 1,200 members) are signed with the name and street name of the poster, to prevent semi-anonymous postings - and people tend to forget to do this on their own. (Requiring a full name tends to discourage less-than-civil exchanges, in our experience.) The plan is to reach out to active posters to update their profile, but there's no point in annoying the vast majority of listen-only members. We're also trying to get a handle on how many active members have completed that task, to see if we need to take more aggressive measures, such as putting everyone without a signature on moderation.

Longer term, we also want to enforce a three-posts-a-day limit, again to discourage back-and-forth exchanges between a few list members that tend to get more heated and discourage everyone else. This would likely work best with a webhook.

Thanks for considering!


On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:25 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 7:34 PM Henning Schulzrinne <hgs10@...> wrote:
In getmembers, all member records, including active posters, seem to show a most_recent_message value of 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z. This also seems to be the case in 'member'.


That field is actually supposed to be the most recent message sent to the group overall, not by the member. I admit that's not what someone would think it is, and I need to re-think that field, and if it should be in that object.

Also, is there a way to get a message count, i.e., how many messages somebody has sent?


It's not currently possible to get either the most recent date a person sent a message nor how many messages they've sent via the API. Can you give me some more information? What would you like that information for?

Thanks,
Mark


Re: most_recent_message is always 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z

 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 7:34 PM Henning Schulzrinne <hgs10@...> wrote:
In getmembers, all member records, including active posters, seem to show a most_recent_message value of 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z. This also seems to be the case in 'member'.


That field is actually supposed to be the most recent message sent to the group overall, not by the member. I admit that's not what someone would think it is, and I need to re-think that field, and if it should be in that object.

Also, is there a way to get a message count, i.e., how many messages somebody has sent?


It's not currently possible to get either the most recent date a person sent a message nor how many messages they've sent via the API. Can you give me some more information? What would you like that information for?

Thanks,
Mark


Re: most_recent_message is always 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z

Henning Schulzrinne
 

I'm looking for the API version of getting this data, not the web version, but you're indeed pointing out where this would be visible on the website, so the information must exist.


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:25 PM Bob Bellizzi <cdfexec@...> wrote:
You could find one message from the person and,
at the end of that message towards the right side,
click/tap More
click/tap all messages by this person
(just checked this out on this group where I am simply a member)

--
Bob Bellizzi
ex IBM and many others


Re: most_recent_message is always 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z

Bob Bellizzi
 

You could find one message from the person and,
at the end of that message towards the right side,
click/tap More
click/tap all messages by this person
(just checked this out on this group where I am simply a member)

--
Bob Bellizzi
ex IBM and many others


most_recent_message is always 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z

Henning Schulzrinne
 

In getmembers, all member records, including active posters, seem to show a most_recent_message value of 0001-01-01T00:00:00Z. This also seems to be the case in 'member'.

Also, is there a way to get a message count, i.e., how many messages somebody has sent?

Henning


Re: accessing the sent invitations data

Les Schaffer
 

Andy

Thanks for response. I tried setting items per page to 100. It works for members but not for invites

In any case I am for now just using POST to 

  https://groups.io/g/marxmail/invitations

and an html  parser to grab the invitation data. Works well enough. 

Les


Re: accessing the sent invitations data

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM, Les Schaffer wrote:
get all the results at once instead of 20 at a time
Les,

I don't know about the API but I'm wondering if your '20 at a time' reference is due to your account preferences which may be set to show just 20 items per page? See https://groups.io/account?page=prefs to increase that limit if needed.

Andy


accessing the sent invitations data

Les Schaffer
 

i need to access the sent invitations data for a new group that just sent out approx 1300 invites.  so the api equivalent of 

   https://groups.io/g/marxmail/invitations?o=20&ord=email&d=asc

i see how to send invites, now i need to access the status  of these invites programmatically (or at least know how to get all the results at once instead of 20 at a time). i do not see the required call in the API documentation, wondering if its not hard to add to the API. 

thanks

Les


Re: App updates

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 08:36 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
Doing a search in this group for android produces no results.
I realised that this topic about the app was posted on the api group. I'll check the app group too.

Andy


Re: App updates

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 05:15 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Just a reminder that the app is continuing to be developed
Hi Mark,

I've only seen details about an iOS version in beta testing. Any news on an Android version? Doing a search in this group for android produces no results.

Regards
Andy


App updates

 

Hi All,

Just a reminder that the app is continuing to be developed and I'd appreciate any feedback you may have about it. Push notifications now work, for example, so you can be notified on the go about developments with your group.

Thanks, Mark